Great article about the Rangers and Long-toss

You forgot the link, ncball.

Looooong toss is something I love watching my guy do.

Nice article. I forwarded it to my RHP son. I wish they did more of this at his high school. He has to drag guys out most of the time to do long toss with him, and the live batting practice would be beneficial not only to the pitchers but to the batters as well. They do bullpens in between starts, but as the article says, throwing to a batter would be much more effective.

Did anyone catch the fact that Nolan Ryan only threw 150ft long toss? What kind of long toss are they playing? 150ft still seems incredibly short.

When they play long toss are they told not to throw past a certain degree. Whenever I play long toss, I go as far as I can and just keep throwing the ball trying to make it reach.

When I long tossed, I was throwing upwards of 300 feet getting there in the air. My freshman year I made my partner (who happened to be our coach b/c nobody else could throw as far) hop the outfield fence to go get balls a few times...

Alan Jaeger and Jim Vatcher did a clinic for our program and it was outstanding. They has been doing this program for a while. Our players have noticed a great difference in thier arms and more importantly they recovered quicker after an outing. They were scheduled to take about an hour but stayed for two hours going over thing with players. I can vouch for the passion for the game.

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Originally posted by ncball:
Here's hoping they have success with the program and the other organizations come to their senses!

Amen to that one! Son has always done long toss and believes it has truly helped him as a pitcher. He has always come out in the spring free from his arm hurting when they start pitching. So many others would complain about their arms as the pitch counts went up. Now he's not allowed to long toss much or any decent distance.

What I don't get is this - everyone is different - If something works for someone - such as long toss - and has helped them get to where they are so far - why do they try and automatically change it if it's not part of that organizations philosophy? It's like they cookie cutter everyone to fit their mold. Yes, there is always room for improvement - and trying new things to see how they will benfit you is what you should do to try and make yourself better - but to automatically eliminate things that have helped a player get to where they are is just not a smart thing to do.

It kind of makes me think that it's no wonder why only 5 - 10% ever make it. They come in good, are forced to conform and change what has benefited them just to fit the mold.

The ironic thing to all of this is that guys used to throw alot more and play alot more long-toss from greater distances. It's less evolving and more of revolving back to what the great ones did long ago.

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Originally posted by Hoovmom15:

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Originally posted by ncball:
Here's hoping they have success with the program and the other organizations come to their senses!

What I don't get is this - everyone is different - If something works for someone - such as long toss - and has helped them get to where they are so far - why do they try and automatically change it if it's not part of that organizations philosophy? It's like they cookie cutter everyone to fit their mold. Yes, there is always room for improvement - and trying new things to see how they will benfit you is what you should do to try and make yourself better - but to automatically eliminate things that have helped a player get to where they are is just not a smart thing to do.

It kind of makes me think that it's no wonder why only 5 - 10% ever make it. They come in good, are forced to conform and change what has benefited them just to fit the mold.

I agree. This year I noticed that son's organization only gave a guideline, with the words "everyone is different, tailor your preseason workout for what works best for you".