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Today during a HS baseball tournament I was playing 1b and there was a groundball hit to 2b. The routine play was made by a step or step and a half. The runner shouted "really?" at the umpire and jogs back to the dugout. The 1b coach saw the umpire's reaction and then told him to throw his player out of the game, and the umpire did. Also, the team called a sac bunt the senior catcher failed to execute and struck out swinging; he was then pulled from the game for a freshmen replacement. Both of these players were few of the returning seniors on a young team who won the State championship last season.

Play pitch by pitch. You can't lose a game on one pitch and you sure as hell can't win it on one pitch.

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Originally posted by junior5:
Yes, it is a bad move by the umpire. I just thought that was a good way to show his young team that noo player is above the rules and that behavior will hurt the team not only for that game but the following one as well.

Junior5,
I think you are right - that is exactly the message the coach was sending to his young team and I also think it takes a solid, mature young man to recognize and appreciate this.
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Also, the team called a sac bunt the senior catcher failed to execute and struck out swinging; he was then pulled from the game for a freshmen replacement.


I wouldn't pull a starter because he failed to get a bunt down. This instills a fear of failure on the diamond that can hurt performance. The last thing I would want in my players is fear of failure. You don't need to pull him to punish him; he knows he screwed up.

Either he is better than the freshman and he should be in there, or he isn't and he should have never been in that situation in the first place. He is still the same player he was before the missed bunt and if he was good enough to play before the K he's good enough to play after.
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Yes, it is a bad move by the umpire. I just thought that was a good way to show his young team that noo player is above the rules and that behavior will hurt the team not only for that game but the following one as well.


Not trying to play complete devil's advocate here, but it only hurt the team more because the coach asked for the ejection. The coach escalated a situation that would have been not as big a deal if he had not asked for the ejection. The incident probably caused a lot of mistrust and unnecessary drama in the dugout/clubhouse that could have been avoided if the situation was addressed differently.
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Probably not the right move by the umpire to eject the kid at the coach's request. The umpire could've done it himself or the cach should've just yanked him out of the game for showing up the ump. Either way, the kid should've been pulled.

As for failing to execute, if the player ignored the bunt sign and eventually struck out, this player would lose his starting job real fast playing for me. If he failed to execute on the bunt attempt and eventually struck out, then I can't see the justification for getting pulled. Yea, I can understand the frustration on the coach's part but if it's a failure of execution, then maybe these things weren't worked on enough in practice which falls on the coach. You don't want players to be afraid if they fail but you definitely want to rope them in if they're undisciplined and/or ingnoring signs etc..

To be pulled for a freshman, the coach is sending a message to his team leaders to step it up or they'll be sitting. I don't see a problem with that.
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