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The umpires in the Angels/Yankees game are just stinking it up. I have never seen such a high-profile display of easy calls missed.

1) Swisher EASILY out on the pickoff play at 2nd. Cameras caught it, his hand was 6" from second when the glove with ball was pressing down on his wrists

2) Swisher DID NOT leave early from third on the sac fly. Third base umpire could not even have possibly seen whether he left early or not, based on where he was positioned when the catch was made. Yet he made the inning ending call that took the run off the board.

(Was this a make up call, since Swisher should have been out on the pick off at second?)

3) One of the stupidest non calls I have ever seen, unless I don't understand the rules. Men on second and third, comebacker ground ball. Pitcher throws to catcher who runs R3 back to third as R2 (Posada) also runs to third from second. R3 runs back to third, chased by catcher, but runs over the bag, Catcher tags R3 AND R2, who is standing one foot from third base. BOTH runners were off the bag, and tagged. Yet the umpires called only one out.

Huh? Am I missing something here?

What is going on? These umpires are stinking the place up!
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Originally posted by Homerun04:
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Originally posted by BobbleheadDoll:
The players didn't look too swift either.


Yes but it is about the players, isn't it?


No, it's about bad baserunning and a bad call. Which will still be talked about a month from now? The bad call, eh? Maybe it is all about the umpire? (Just kidding)

It was obviously the wrong call. But I prefer to to find out the reason for the bad call. The Reason, not an Excuse.

McClelland has gotten slow lately and instead of cheating with his moves to compensate, he has stopped moving. The proper mechanic for that call a third would have been to take a step to the side when the runner on the fould side of the bag (Posada?) blocked the umpires view of the the other runners feet. A quick adjustment and lean, as they teach at proschool, would have given the proper view and the proper call.

Instead McClelland stood his ground and made the call base on the body positioning of the runner, just as he did on the "leaving too early" call.

It's a shame. McClelland has had years of exemplary service. He has been a very good umpire. He was not very good tonight, and despite what many believe, there will be consequences.

He needs to decide to change his approach to base umpiring or retire.
Jimmy, any comment on the expanding strike zone as the game went on ? The 3 missed calls already noted have to rank right up there with some of the all-time worst. Put in replay, get it right, and let the players decide the game. The only saving grace was that even with these 3 umps having poor nights the outcome was likely unaffected.
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It's a shame. McClelland has had years of exemplary service. He has been a very good umpire. He was not very good tonight, and despite what many believe, there will be consequences.

Jimmy - I have to respectfully disagree. McClelland imho is one of the worst I have ever seen. He always seems to be involved in controversy. Apparently, he subscribes to the Joe Brinkman school of umpiring where they delay making their ball and strikes calls at home plate. Like Brinkman, I believe he believes people actually go to the game to see them umpire. He blew two calls at third base last night and that is difficult for even an amateur to do. Brinkman was a dope and he also was given premier games like the world series and playoffs.

The umpire who blew the Nick Swisher tag at second was Dale Scott. Another very poor umpire imho. The homeplate umpire starts calling the low strike after he completely screws the catcher up by getting him to crouch? What a joke. The best umpires are supposed to be umpiring and we get the worst imho. Bud Selig imho deserves some of the blame. His stewardship of the game has been awful imho. I am still not convinced Selig understands anything about baseball.
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The best umpires are supposed to be umpiring and we get the worst imho. Bud Selig imho deserves some of the blame. His stewardship of the game has been awful imho. I am still not convinced Selig understands anything about baseball.

I thought umpires were chosen for playoffs on rotation, not merit and it was part of the umps CBA.
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Originally posted by trojan-skipper:
McClellan loafed big time on the tag-up play. He should be 20 feet from the base; not 6 inches...


Agree...why would an ump make that call when he did not get in proper position to make it, and it was not an obvious easy call? He's got to know the scrutiny that would come from it if blown...odd. Confused
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Originally posted by DaddyBo:
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Originally posted by trojan-skipper:
McClellan loafed big time on the tag-up play. He should be 20 feet from the base; not 6 inches...


Agree...why would an ump make that call when he did not get in proper position to make it, and it was not an obvious easy call? He's got to know the scrutiny that would come from it if blown...odd. Confused


because its his call to make.....right or wrong, he is the guy....
From the NY times today......got some intersting thoughts...its bit condensed,(by me)....but its good thoughts...

Down in the Yankees’ locker room, Reggie Jackson pronounced: “Today was not a good day for the umpires. But the third-base umpire is a great umpire.”

Upstairs in a conference room, Tim McClelland was proving he is a stand-up umpire by appearing in front of reporters to give his version of two poor calls he had made.

“Obviously, or not obviously,” McClelland said, “but there were two missed calls. And I’m just out there trying to do my job and do it the best I can. And unfortunately there was, by instant replay, there were two missed calls.”

In a bad month for umpires, McClelland showed up in front of people he had every reason to expect would skewer him, satirize him and demonize him. He had the character to give his side, which was, basically, that he had messed up.

The replays showed he was obviously wrong in ruling that Nick Swisher had left the base too early after tagging up on a fly ball to center field. On television he did not appear to be in position to make the difficult call on the two actions, occurring simultaneously, nearly 200 feet apart. Later he showed up in public to say that “in my heart” he thought Swisher had left the base too soon.

On Tuesday evening McClelland was not right, when he missed Mike Napoli of the Angels tagging Robinson Cano and then Jorge Posada as they shuffled around third base.

Rather than gum over the question of whether instant replay should be expanded, I would like to talk about umpires themselves. They’ve got a tough job, and most of them do it well, most of the time. They are the third team on the field, and like the Yankees, and like the Angels, they have their pride.

I have been an admirer of umpires since 1981 when I came to know one team of umpires, after Martin had jumped all over one of them. The four of them spent some time with me in New York, opening up their hearts and their working lives.

Lou DiMuro. Nick Bremigan. Larry Barnett. Mike Reilly. DiMuro and Bremigan died way too young. Barnett is retired. Reilly is a crew chief.

They reminded me of other good people I had met, as a news reporter, out there in the real world: coal miners who are convinced that nobody understands their perilous work; teachers who have to hear how lucky they are to have summers off; and some police officers, at least in New York, who develop a gallows humor about their line of work.

The umps were like that. When your basic New York waiter, who seemed to be auditioning for a comedy club, goofed on them and called them farmers, Barnett said, “Are you sure the waiter doesn’t know who we are?”

After spending a couple of days around the umps, I wrote, “In many ways, the umpires are like police officers, who feel so cut off from other people because of the nature of their work that they spend much of their time in the company of other police officers.”

Reilly said: ”I think I am probably a little more suspicious of people. I think umpiring does change you a little.”

After that, I saw umpires through a different prism. A few years later, at the Stadium, Barnett’s new crew made a call on a drive near the right-field foul pole, as I recall.

Right after the game, I went down to the umpires’ room and Barnett’s guys asked what the television replay had shown. When I said the call was wrong, they shook their heads in disgust. They hated to be wrong. Hated it. But I also understood that they knew it was not the first time, or the last.

Nowadays, modern technology informs all of us. The fans in luxury suites have access to television replays from a dozen angles. Standing in their dark blue uniforms on the field, the umpires can tell by the rumble if they have messed up.

Baseball now uses instant replay for barrier calls on possible home runs: over the fence, fair or foul. I would not extend it to every bloop down the foul line, every bang-bang play at first, because then the umpires just become space holders. It’s their game, too.

Some umpires are better than others. There are a few authoritarians or hotheads, and more than a few incompetents. This is generally known in the dugout. Jackson, a senior adviser to the Yankees, hates the rotation system that gives every umpire a turn in the postseason. He says umpiring in the postseason should be based on merit. And, Jackson added, Tim McClelland deserves to be working in October. McClelland demonstrated that after Tuesday’s game. By showing up.
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Originally posted by piaa_ump:
Jackson, a senior adviser to the Yankees, hates the rotation system that gives every umpire a turn in the postseason. He says umpiring in the postseason should be based on merit.


Isn't it odd, that in the highest meritocracy in society, pro sports playoffs, that the umps are chosen on rotation. When the calls matter most, you may get the lowest rated umpire in the league influencing the outcome.

Chalk it up to...some things are just wrong and the people that can change it, the umps themselves, are at the center of the wrongness.
PIAA,

No one has more empathy and understanding for pro umpires than I, however, admitting "messing up" no longer suffices.

If this were a one time incident for Tim, it would his mea culpa would be acceptable. But Tim has made several bad calls over the past two years. It's time to look for a reason, not an excuse.

And the reason isn't hard to see. His base mechanics, and that of several other ML umpires have diminished over time. Tim simply doesn't hustle any more, and is happy to make calls from where ever he happens to be at the time of the play. Any Single A umpire would have adjusted his position to make the call "two runner" call at third and the tag-up call. Tim doesn't appear to feel he needs to.

MLB has noticed the decline in baseumpiring this year and has threatend to make all ML umpires and AAA call ups attend a mechanics session before or during spring training. Why not? NFL officials actually train before the season and take fitness tests. MLB umpires work games in the preseason and continue building bad habits.

One possible explanation for his performance on the runner leaving early...in regular season, using 4 man mechanics, that would have been PU'c call. U3 would have come into fair territory and had the call on R2 touching. With 6 man mechanics, things change and Tim may have been confused momentarily.

Regardless, the baseumpiring in ML has been at an all time low this season and if they want to retain their credibilty, then need to do what it takes to fix it.

Tim reminds me of a top level umpire we demoted this past season. He complained: "I know more about mechanics than anyone in this association." To which I replied, "Perhaps, but it isn't your knowledge that gets rated, it's your performance."

As long as the post season money is split amongst all the umpires, regardless if they are working or not, there is little incentive to work harder to get a spot on a crew.

I've umpired for over 30 years including MiLB ball. I feel for these guys and I defend them when it is defensable. Last night's base work was not.

All that said, MLB management has to shoulder some of the blame. They don't pay nickle one towards the salary or training of any minor league umpire, with the exception of taking over the evaluation duties at the triple A level.

The MiLB umpires are their future employees. It's time they assumed some responsibility for training, compensation and quality control.
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Originally posted by Yankeelvr:
Jimmy, any comment on the expanding strike zone as the game went on ?



I really didn't notice an expansion of the zone except for the Angels getting the low strike after Layne explained to Scioscia that he was being blocked out by the catcher. The catcher adjusted and Layne followed up with the low strikes the Angels wanted.

I have to admit, though, that there could have been something with the strike zone later on that I missed. I was getting depressed as the game wore on and my attention to detail sort of drifted from time to time.
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Originally posted by piaa_ump:
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Originally posted by DaddyBo:
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Originally posted by trojan-skipper:
McClellan loafed big time on the tag-up play. He should be 20 feet from the base; not 6 inches...


Agree...why would an ump make that call when he did not get in proper position to make it, and it was not an obvious easy call? He's got to know the scrutiny that would come from it if blown...odd. Confused


because its his call to make.....right or wrong, he is the guy....

Piaa...I was not making the point that is was not his call to make...I was wondering why he would make the call he MADE when two things working against doing it...out of position, and not an obvious call. I would think he would have to be sure (others say "obvious") to make the out call...no way he was sure in that instance.

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