Looks like a Headfirst on 8/2-8/3 and a Showball on 8/4-8/5 that are practically right next to each other. For anyone who has done these events, is there any reason a player wouldn’t be able to do both?
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Position player? No, it’s nothing more strenuous than a normal 4-day tourney.
PO, different story for obvious reasons.
My question would be, why do both?
Wait, there was a really good description of this a few years ago, probably by smokeminside. I found this, which is not what I was remembering:
@Senna posted:Position player? No, it’s nothing more strenuous than a normal 4-day tourney.
PO, different story for obvious reasons.
My question would be, why do both?
There are a couple different schools that will be at one but not the other.
@anotherparent posted:Wait, there was a really good description of this a few years ago, probably by smokeminside. I found this, which is not what I was remembering:
I can't find it either! But my guys thought it was pretty stressful to have them back to back. Maybe it was mostly a mental thing but they were tired at the second event. Or maybe they were spending too much time back home at the beach before we left....
Is there a headfirst that's a bit earlier, or a snowball that's a bit later? A few days off even for position players can't hurt.
@smokeminside posted:I can't find it either! But my guys thought it was pretty stressful to have them back to back. Maybe it was mostly a mental thing but they were tired at the second event. Or maybe they were spending too much time back home at the beach before we left....
Is there a headfirst that's a bit earlier, or a snowball that's a bit later? A few days off even for position players can't hurt.
Good to know. Basically what I was worried about.
Write to all coaches of interest now, express interest, given them your schedule, ask where they can see you. Some will be at big tournaments, some will be at HF/SB, all will also say "come to our camp". I don't think I'd pay $1000 on the off-chance that 1 or 2 more coaches might become interested; I would want to know ahead of time that this is where they wanted to see me.
@anotherparent posted:Write to all coaches of interest now, express interest, given them your schedule, ask where they can see you. Some will be at big tournaments, some will be at HF/SB, all will also say "come to our camp". I don't think I'd pay $1000 on the off-chance that 1 or 2 more coaches might become interested; I would want to know ahead of time that this is where they wanted to see me.
Good advice. TBPTson has been doing this. So far it is mostly come to our camps. Then again, since my son is a 2023, I think that is basically all they can say at this point. A few of the coaches have talked to my son's travel and HS coach and said they'd like to see him at a camp or HF/SB. Also hit them hard on academics.
What are everyone's thoughts on doing a HF, take two days off, then doing a SB? They are in NY so I thought we could take the 2 days off and possibly visit Columbia and NYU, then tour NYC.
@TerribleBPthrower posted:What are everyone's thoughts on doing a HF, take two days off, then doing a SB? They are in NY so I thought we could take the 2 days off and possibly visit Columbia and NYU, then tour NYC.
NYU is near Washington Square Park. There’s been a lot of violence there lately. Be careful. While the odds are with you a tourist was shot in Times Square this week. He probably thought the odds were with him.
All due respect ( a NY phrase if there ever was one), NYC is fine. Sure, don't go to Washington Sq Park at night if you're skiddish about news reports trying to make it out like NYC is on fire. Other than the weather, it's not. Crime up, for sure, but no where near the levels I grew up in during 70's/80's. Go visit Columbia and NYU and have fun. If you're in the area and want to take a look at a few other HA schools close to NYC check out Fordham, Marist and Stevens across the river.
Thanks guys. Here's another question... I just took a closer look and it looks like the only differences in schools attending are Princeton and Penn will be at SB and won't be at HF. Both of those schools will be at SB down in FL in October. Is it worth it to do both for 2 additional schools? I'm not as worried as much about the cost but really more about the time and coordination in doing both.
@TerribleBPthrower posted:Thanks guys. Here's another question... I just took a closer look and it looks like the only differences in schools attending are Princeton and Penn will be at SB and won't be at HF. Both of those schools will be at SB down in FL in October. Is it worth it to do both for 2 additional schools? I'm not as worried as much about the cost but really more about the time and coordination in doing both.
Is the SB Oct date going to cover all your other coach attendance needs (not just Princeton and Penn)? If so, I'd only do that one and save $. Assuming you have a busy summer schedule, he'll be more rested for that event in Oct as well. You have a 2023, and you're relatively ok on time for the east coast HA programs.
@TerribleBPthrower posted:Thanks guys. Here's another question... I just took a closer look and it looks like the only differences in schools attending are Princeton and Penn will be at SB and won't be at HF. Both of those schools will be at SB down in FL in October. Is it worth it to do both for 2 additional schools? I'm not as worried as much about the cost but really more about the time and coordination in doing both.
If Penn and Princeton are seriously recruiting your son I would get out in front of it now and not wait until October. Again, if they are interested they will provide dates to see your son way before October.
Personally, I think Ivy recruitment in October is way too late these days. Ten years ago, my son was offered by two Ivys in August and he was one of the last recruits for each school. I would do your HF event (get some momentum and interest) then figure out the rest.
JMO.
@fenwaysouth posted:If Penn and Princeton are seriously recruiting your son I would get out in front of it now and not wait until October. Again, if they are interested they will provide dates to see your son way before October.
Personally, I think Ivy recruitment in October is way too late these days. Ten years ago, my son was offered by two Ivys in August and he was one of the last recruits for each school. I would do your HF event (get some momentum and interest) then figure out the rest.
JMO.
Particularly Penn. That HC signs his main recruits very early. Columbia probably second most aggressive. You’ll see on PG they have a big class of 2022’s already locked. Will probably have a few 2023’s soon. Princeton may be last as they’re the most stringent but agree Oct probably too late.
@fenwaysouth posted:If Penn and Princeton are seriously recruiting your son I would get out in front of it now and not wait until October. Again, if they are interested they will provide dates to see your son way before October.
Personally, I think Ivy recruitment in October is way too late these days. Ten years ago, my son was offered by two Ivys in August and he was one of the last recruits for each school. I would do your HF event (get some momentum and interest) then figure out the rest.
JMO.
Is it late for a 2022 or a 2023? My son is a 2023. I’ve been told by a bunch of people that HA recruiting doesn’t really pick up until fall of junior year but my son should start early because he has a pretty high PSAT and the travel coaches think he’s ready to show. You’ve obviously been through it so I value your opinion.
Pre-pandemic, Ivies went to big tournaments like WWBA, Cincy Flames, etc. (to name a few) to watch players. Have your son's travel coaches contact those schools to gauge their interest.
@Senna posted:Is the SB Oct date going to cover all your other coach attendance needs (not just Princeton and Penn)? If so, I'd only do that one and save $. Assuming you have a busy summer schedule, he'll be more rested for that event in Oct as well. You have a 2023, and you're relatively ok on time for the east coast HA programs.
Thanks Senna. The October SB does have a lot of the same coaches as the August event. The SB events do not have 2 other programs that he’s really interested in.
@anotherparent posted:Pre-pandemic, Ivies went to big tournaments like WWBA, Cincy Flames, etc. (to name a few) to watch players. Have your son's travel coaches contact those schools to gauge their interest.
Thanks. I was surprised to see a bunch of them at the Palm Beach Classic a few weeks ago.
Coaches have already talked to a few of the schools. A couple watched him at the PBC. His travel coaches told us to go to camps if we can and not worry about the team if they overlap. I was hoping to do HF/SB instead of camps to get seen by more coaches.
@TerribleBPthrower posted:Is it late for a 2022 or a 2023? My son is a 2023. I’ve been told by a bunch of people that HA recruiting doesn’t really pick up until fall of junior year but my son should start early because he has a pretty high PSAT and the travel coaches think he’s ready to show. You’ve obviously been through it so I value your opinion.
IMHO a 2022 will need to get "off the schneid" right now and get noticed through baseball and necessary SAT/ACT scores or whatever the particular school is using post-Covid academic measurement.
A 2023 has time. A high PSAT has to be converted into a meaningful SAT, and he'll need to demonstrate D1 level talent if he is targeting Ivys. A good rule of thumb for a possible Ivy recruit is that he is being pursued and offered by other D1s. If that is happening and he's got the necessary SATs/ACTs then he's got a shot. Ivys are recruiting much earlier these days than when my son was being recruited.
Your quote about "HA recruiting not picking up until fall of junior year" applies to HA D3s...not Ivys.
