RJM posted:A friend's son played against Josh Beckett in high school. A dad had his face up to the backstop screen yelling at Beckett. Beckett threw a fastball at the guy's face breaking his nose.
Hee-hee-hee. 
Players definitely need to be able to perform in spite of over-the-top chatter ... but it's still bush league.
jp24 posted:Players definitely need to be able to perform in spite of over-the-top chatter ... but it's still bush league.
If teams feel that they need to chatter at opposing teams from their dugout like little girls to get an advantage what does that say about their baseball fundamentals?
lionbaseball posted:jp24 posted:Players definitely need to be able to perform in spite of over-the-top chatter ... but it's still bush league.
If teams feel that they need to chatter at opposing teams from their dugout like little girls to get an advantage what does that say about their baseball fundamentals?
Lion, crazy stuff on the ball field.... What's the age of your player?
Gov posted:lionbaseball posted:jp24 posted:Players definitely need to be able to perform in spite of over-the-top chatter ... but it's still bush league.
If teams feel that they need to chatter at opposing teams from their dugout like little girls to get an advantage what does that say about their baseball fundamentals?
Lion, crazy stuff on the ball field.... What's the age of your player?
2017
I think it's pretty telling that there hasn't been one post in this thread affirming the chanting/yelling as a worthwhile, constructive practice in baseball.
2019&21 Dad posted:I think it's pretty telling that there hasn't been one post in this thread affirming the chanting/yelling as a worthwhile, constructive practice in baseball.
Completely agree. Personally think it's childish as hell...
2019&21 Dad posted:I think it's pretty telling that there hasn't been one post in this thread affirming the chanting/yelling as a worthwhile, constructive practice in baseball.
No, but what I heard a lot of is it doesn't change as a player progresses up the ladder. So, just try to ignore it.
kandkfunk posted:Coming from a former softball player, I was looking forward to the relative quiet at baseball games. Then the chatter and chanting started in baseball. It's still not to the level of the annoying softball cheers, but I'm not a fan. We had an obnoxious senior last year who loved to cheer loudly during the pitcher's wind-up. An ump actually called him on it and gave him a warning. Not really sure what the rule is that he broke, but I was totally ok with him getting in trouble. It didn't stop him at future games however. I kept wishing the coach would put a stop to it. Thankfully, I don't think we have anybody like that on the team this year.
AS far as rulings, there is this interp from 2014:
SITUATION 12: The visiting team has developed an orchestrated team action to cheer on a teammate to get a rally going. The action consists of a rhythmic series of hand claps and foot stomps. RULING: As long as the action is within the spirit of fair play, and not intended to induce a balk, create a distraction for the opposing team or intimidate/demean them, this action is acceptable. There have been some instances where a team, for example, begins to pound bats in the dugout only when the opposing pitcher begins to deliver a pitch. That action is clearly intended to gain an advantage and is not to be allowed. (3-3-1)
There's also a general rule against taunting, and another case that I can't find right now similar to the above that deals with the cheer getting "louder" as the pitcher starts his delivery.
From an umpiring standpoint, it is hard to decide where to draw the line.
NTGson pitching in 13U against another local team. Their asst coach was working 1st base coaching box. On his every stride into the pitch that character would call out "BALL". This went on for three innings. With game somewhat in hand, the boy had a runner on 1st. His pickoff was just wild enough to miss the coach's mug by about 6 inches. Funny how he shut up thereafter.
"If teams feel that they need to chatter at opposing teams from their dugout like little girls to get an advantage what does that say about their baseball fundamentals?"
The team that I posted about that screams like crazy is actually really good - at least as long as I've been watching our HS team play. I can't figure out what they do it. They must think it gives them some sort of advantage.
My team in KY played a loud mouth team in a spring break tournament once and they got into our heads. They pulled into the parking lot hanging out the windows screaming stupid stuff and didn't stop until after their bus left the field. I wouldn't be surprised if they went into McDonalds screaming at Ronald. What's sad is they were pretty talented but they got into my guys heads. What didn't help is the cheap shot they took on my third baseman. Runner coming into third with no play and my guy was standing off to the side of the bag out of the way. Their kid veered off and put both forearms into my guy's chest and almost drove him into the dugout fence. When that happened their entire team started celebrating in the dugout. Once I found out my kid was fine (I had to take him out) I lost my mind of the umpire because they didn't do anything to that kid nor the dugout. He said he didn't see it. After I calmed down a little bit I lost my mind on their coach and was ready to fight him. He literally told me his kid didn't meant to do it. After the game I sent my guys to the outfield and refused to shake hands. I did have another meeting with the umps and their coach explaining my distaste for them using very loud words.
What's great is they were going to play a team I was great friends with their coach later in the season. We played college ball together and I coached for him one year. I told him everything they did and how they acted. My buddy's team was really good and almost made it to the state tournament. He's a classy guy and will do everything in his power to not run the score up on teams. After 5 innings my buddy's team beat this bunch of rednecks 20 - 1. Karma sure is a b**ch sometimes.