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The site used to be able to do polls. I can’t find it. So I’ll tally the totals from time to time after there are enough responses.

In high school was your son a …

* pitcher only

*pitcher and position player

To be a pitcher he had to get on the mound a few times per season. To be a position player he had to be at least a sometimes starter.

Answer: POS/P

My son was a shortstop and a closer soph year. He was a center fielder and a closer junior and senior year.

Daughter (softball) was only a right fielder freshman year. Then a center fielder.

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pitcher and position player  (LHP/1B ... sometimes DH or EH)

* On HS team this spring - he was in the weekly pitching rotation, however, his positional playing time and his DH ABs were inversly proportional to his strike-out rate the prior week.

* plays on two summer travel teams, as a two-way for his local team that competes in mostly regional events; and as a PO on a travel team that set a goal to win WWBA 15U this week.

baseball adults tell my son he is going to be a PO ... the kid is still in the denial stage (far from ready to except his pre-determined baseball fate).

There is no reason to take the bat out of the hands of a HS pitcher, even if he is mediocre, or worse. Remember, 50% the MLB requires pitchers to hit.

MLB owners create POs because they want to protect their investment - pitchers are usually the highest paid individuals on the field and their employers want to minimize risk. Having POs on HS, club and even college teams is emulation of a model that’s not relevant.

@DD 2024 posted:

There is no reason to take the bat out of the hands of a HS pitcher, even if he is mediocre, or worse. Remember, 50% the MLB requires pitchers to hit.

MLB owners create POs because they want to protect their investment - pitchers are usually the highest paid individuals on the field and their employers want to minimize risk. Having POs on HS, club and even college teams is emulation of a model that’s not relevant.

That’s an interesting take that very few people would agree with in totality. I will give you the part about HS and club ball. There is no good reason to take the bat out of a pitchers hands at those levels - assuming that the P in question is the best available hitter on the team (and that’s sometimes not the case). In HS ball having another player bat instead of the P is a way to get one more kid into the game and some HS coaches are worried about politics enough to play it that way. In travel ball it’s all about money and making kids POs is a way to increase the roster size and increase revenue accordingly. Your argument loses credibility after that. It’s been discussed many times that once you get to college ball there are only so many hours in the day. At every level except D3 the time demands of position specific workouts, film study, classes, homework, study hall, team meetings, travel, and social life make it unrealistic to try to be a two way player. Anyone that has been there will attest to that. The same is true at the MLB level, and while NL pitchers still currently stand in a batters box a time or 2 when they pitch, very few are good hitters at that level - and if they had tried to continue hitting they likely would never have made it to the big leagues. NL is probably headed towards the DH anyway which will end some of this speculation.

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