How many Juco players get into 4yr?

I would think that most Florida JUCO players find homes in a 4 year program unless they can't meet eligibility requirements. I believe that would be the highest hurdle.

My son played at 2 Florida JUCO's and saw many of his team mates move on.

2011-Grad:

We went down this road 5-years ago. At the time my guy played for a very high profile HS in CA. His stats were comparable and he got little love from the D1 comunity on the west coast.

We put education first and expanded his horizon to include some lower profile D1's with strong academics and a handful of high profile academic D3's. Once we started to make contact, visit schools and show interest the number of opportunities started to grow.

We knew that attending one of the 3 Juco's in our area was always an option. However, once we took the bull by the horns and expanded our horizons opportunities began to develop.

Don't wait for schools to come to you (it may not happen) get out there and have him tell his story.

It is important to remember that if your son's goal is to remain in Florida for college, and wishes to play baseball, that Florida D-1's and D-2's have the entire country to recruit from. Everyone wants to play baseball in a warm weather state.

Most of the better JUCO rosters will recruit from out of state and out of country as well. The JUCO's my son played on had pitchers from Canada and New England and position players from Maryland and points beyond.

Staying in Florida to attend college and play baseball is a challenge.

Thanks for the replies. Not sure what to do. He has looked into and written to many DII schools in Florida too. Also a few schools out of state. Everyone so far says they have their roster already. He is getting very discouraged and doesn't want to go to any more camps. I tell him if you don't go you will not play ball. Maybe he will come around. I know he will kick himself if he gives up.

What position does he play? Where does he hit in the order?

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So, how many position players who play JUCO actually get a chance to go on and play their last 2 years at a 4 year school? I would think not to many.

You need to do your research. That question has different answers for different parts of the country. If I would answer the question for my part of the world, not as many as people think.

If academics are the priority; your chances of finding a school are probably better out of HS. If baseball is a priority; with good grades and test scores you can find all kinds of GREAT schools where he can get a top notch education and play ball. However, it may not be in your backyard.

If he has been accepted to his "college of choice" then you have answered the question. If baseball is a priority, it may not really be his true college of choice.

Remember he will be person far longer than he will be a baseball player.

It will vary greatly from JC to JC. On my son's middle of the road team I think 1 kid went d1, one signed professionally, two went to D2 schools out of the 11 sophmores on his team. His team played in a solid so cal jc league.

The basic reality of your son's current situation is that he will need to go to a JC to keep playing. Obviously it could change bewteen now and the end of the year. I would not count on walking onto a D1 or D2 team. In CA many of the D2 teams are loaded with JC and other 4 year transfers and its very difficult to make the teams as a freshman. It will come down to how badly your son wants to play baseball in college, his odds will improve greatly at a JC.

There are a number of advantages to attending a JC.
-chance to get better, step up your game
-chance to seriously work on baseball conditioning
-chance to be seen by a lot of schools and pro scouts (tons more then HS)
-chance to play on summer team with d1 and d2 players if his coach thinks he good enough and has the connections
-chance to not be stuck in a class with 900 other students
-chance to learn things about particular D1 and D2 programs you would have never heard while in HS

btw, the quality of a JC education is exactly the same as a 4 year school....its exactly equal to the effort put into it by your son.

Good luck.

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Originally posted by floridafan:
What position does he play? Where does he hit in the order?

He did hit 5th or 6 last year. Will be hitting 3 or 4 this year. Hit .478 in regular season with 13 doubles. Came into HS as a catcher / MIF. Developed knee problem. Asked coach about 2nd base but assistants son played there. Made him an OF. This year he is being moved to 3rd.

Thanks all. I have been telling my son for over a year he needs to target other schools than those in Florida. He did a few but not nearly as many as he should have. Typical teen never listens to me, what do I know? I am just a dad. Now, he is starting to look but I fear it may be to late.

2011 Grad, you have a PM

2011 Grad -
Why so down on the juco route?

Junior colleges in your part of the world play a pretty good level of baseball. And, a for the academics....I agree with CollegeParent - the academic part of the juco experience will be exactly what your son puts into it.

By digging a bit, it's not hard to find how many position players from junior college go on to four-year programs. Also, as your player speaks to the juco coaches, he should ask that question....how many go on? And, what schools do they go to? The answers will vary widely I suspect.

But be prepared....juco roster spots are very competitive. FL jucos limit their roster to 26 spots. With pitchers taking up the majority of spots, position player roster spots are at a premium. If your son can play multiple positions, so much the better.

Good luck....and a belated welcome to the HSBBW!

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Originally posted by baseballguy:
2011 Grad -
Why so down on the juco route?

Junior colleges in your part of the world play a pretty good level of baseball. And, a for the academics....I agree with CollegeParent - the academic part of the juco experience will be exactly what your son puts into it.

By digging a bit, it's not hard to find how many position players from junior college go on to four-year programs. Also, as your player speaks to the juco coaches, he should ask that question....how many go on? And, what schools do they go to? The answers will vary widely I suspect.

But be prepared....juco roster spots are very competitive. FL jucos limit their roster to 26 spots. With pitchers taking up the majority of spots, position player roster spots are at a premium. If your son can play multiple positions, so much the better.

Good luck....and a belated welcome to the HSBBW!

Outstanding advice!

A Florida JUCO roster spot is one of the most coveted baseball opportunities in America. Players from almost all states are fighting to get in there.

Lets talk about academics for a moment...

For the hundreth time, JUCO's are not for dummies or low academic achievers. A JUCO is junior because they only provide two years of a 4 year degree - not because their academics are "junior" or inferior or what not. English 101 or Chemistry 110 or Calculus I, II, III, IV etc. is the same at the JUCO as it is at Harvard. Many of the top educational institutions in the country welcome juco transfers because they know they are getting guaranteed academic achievers - not just good SAT test takers.

I spent several years at a JUCO going to night school while I worked in the day to support my family. When it came time to transfer, I got accepted into some top Engineering schools based soley off my JUCO transcripts. Moreover, my Engineering degree does not mention that I attended a JUCO - it only cites the college where I graduated.

Finally, the cost of attendance almost demands JUCO in tough economic times like we are in today. Why pay $100/credit hour and up at the 4 year for English 101 when you can get the same thing for about $30/credit hour at a JUCO?

One of our many great JUCO success stories is fanofgame's son. Attended JUCO for one year and is now starring for the USC Trojans in the PAC 10. One of the greatest baseball conferences in America at one of the top academic institutions in America.

floridafan's son played at top Florida JUCO's and is now playing at University of Tampa - one of the top baseball opportunites in America.

We can tell tons of these stories here at the hsbbweb.

http://www.cfcccamps.com/juco-showcases.html

2011, I know you said he didn't want to go to any more camps, but here's a JUCO showcase to consider. These guys are making phone calls right now. JUCO signing day is January 15, and a lot of the top programs want to fill their rosters now. Some will also wait to snatch up D1 players who don't make grades (or one we know of who turned down the Rays to play a year at Chipola. ) Florida JUCOs are very competitive. We went to the December version of this camp and the atmosphere was very laid back and the coaches were actually very entertaining. It was fun.

I do know of one Florida player, very good friend of my son's, who decomitted from an out of state D2 in July of last year and walked on at Central Florida a month later. He just got notified last week that he made the spring roster.

Also, once again, many of the Florida JUCOs have Honors programs. At least one has an Honors scholarship as well.

Please don't take this the wrong way...but is there a chance that your son might be telling you that he'd rather go to his college of choice and maybe just play club ball?

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Younger went to high end CA JC...and the competition is very tough...70 guys out each year...and Like FLA very good players...looking back they place about 10 guys each year who continue to play baseball at 4 year schools. Out of that 10 there were 4-5 DI's each year. Beyond the 10 there were another 4 who could have played 4 year ball at some level but decided not to for a variety of reasons. I would think that a guy who went to a JC in FLA would have an excellent chance at a 4 year option, and it would really set him up for his baseball if he could knock off his harder classes at the JC level.

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Originally posted by 2011-Grad:
So, how many position players who play JUCO actually get a chance to go on and play their last 2 years at a 4 year school? I would think not to many.

So, how many position players who play Div I actually get a chance to go on and play their last 2 years? Not near as many that are there as freshmen. Cream rises to the top and there are only so many starters.

Good Point Roll-it-up! And good points made by all above! We are happy for a variety of reasons with the choice our son made to play JUCO and stay within 80 miles of our home. We were able to see many games that otherwise we would not have had the opportunity to attend and that was important to us because we enjoy watching our son play.

Manatees at 4-year schools

This stuff is pretty easy to find. Here's the listing for the State College of Florida (formerly Manatee CC), this year's state champ.

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We went down this road

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Just got back from that JUCO Showcase in Winterhaven. It was good and one of the coaches there told my son he wanted him to come up to their school this Saturday for a one camp they were having. He is going.

Please keep the suggestions coming. I just wanted to say thank you to everyone participating. Your advice and comments are not only helpful but comforting.