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Hello to all (My wife & I have been lurking for quite some time) and love to chat baseball especially during the duldrums of winter! My question is my youngest son collapses his fulcrum upon release of the ball. He is 15 6'3 240#s He is throwing around 78-79. I swear he was throwing harder @ 13?
After reading a LOT of the posts and links videos etc. (Backstop007 's link to chrisoleary.com is a great site. I cant seem to find a site explaining how to fix it! I would post a video (but don't know how) Any help would be greatly appreciated
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I was wondering the same thing. Where is yardbird when you need him?

So you are saying he collapses his landing leg? At contact? Some other time?

Time to get a you tube account. It really is pretty easy. Actually I just purchased "power director" software right off the internet and it works pretty good. Costs about $70 and allows you to post directly to youtube.
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Originally posted by My2cents:
I knew I would get a comment on that one! OK right when he releases the ball He kinda lowers his whole body (bending his front and back knees and lowering his but at the same time. I think I will have to figure out how to post a vid (apparently the Lefty Pitcher is oozing out of me) as I type LOL


Do you mean like this? Don't really know if what you are talking about is a bad thing. He could be just pushing off with his back leg and have a long stride with his front. His style would be "drop and drive". Really have to see a video or picture to see if what he is doing is wrong.

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Definitely need a short video clip.

But if your post title is an indication of what you're talking about (sliding plant leg hip), then I'm thinking you are saying that he doesn't stop his forward momentum at the hip joint once he reaches foot plant.

If that's what you mean, then given his size, he just may not have the strength to stop that much mass solidly.....yet.

He should start some squatting (and other lower body exercises) to build some lower body strength, plus he would need to do some drill work that focuses on that area of his delivery to try and correct the problem.

Or you could mean something totally different and I am just talking to hear myself talk....
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Obviously the guy in the picture above couldn't have been much of a pitcher throwing like that!
Wink

Those were the preferred mechanics for quite a while. When a pitcher has the success that Seaver did then his mechanics become the "ideal" mechanics until another pitcher comes along and dominates with different mechanics. Lincecum seems to be the one people like to hold up as ideal these days and although he does many enviable things there aren't many who could duplicate his mechanics without serious injury risk.

I based my notions of ideal on Seaver when I was a kid. However, in those days we didn't get videod and my notions and my motion didn't have much in common.
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Love the feedback guys, I sent TPM a PM SHE NAILED IT! 2 years ago he had a pin inserted into his front side hip (due to him getting sooo big so quick) his ball slid in the socket. We were wondering why he was walking w/ his left leg swinging out to the side about 4 inches. He also told me it hurt when doing the inside move to 2nd. It has since healed perfectly. I think it may me a muscle memory thing (from when it was hurting him)and he now has a habbit of not planting his front foot, thus losing his(pivot)and powering his upper body over his pivot point. I've set up a ball/w band in the house and we will try a few things. Yes I am old school and tought both boys (drop & drive)But I may try "stand tall) as an alternative, I want to ensure whatever we end up with causes (NO PAIN)
AS ALWAYS any help/links would be greatly appreciated! Thanks to all
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But if your post title is an indication of what you're talking about (sliding plant leg hip), then I'm thinking you are saying that he doesn't stop his forward momentum at the hip joint once he reaches foot plant.

If that's what you mean, then given his size, he just may not have the strength to stop that much mass solidly.....yet.


Rob your exactly correct / above (it is hard to write a problem) any thoughts on corrective action? I was going to try starting him in the Football throw position w/ the ball band repetivly so he could feel (pivotal impact?)

CA DAD I was a Carleton supporter, too young to watch Koufax. I would sit 2feet away from the TV read books took Karate etc. But we did have light/heavy ball It was called waterlogged and fast pitching/against the wall! Once I hit 15YO fast pitching would KILL!! That game was made for no more than 12YO LOL
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But if your post title is an indication of what you're talking about (sliding plant leg hip), then I'm thinking you are saying that he doesn't stop his forward momentum at the hip joint once he reaches foot plant.

If that's what you mean, then given his size, he just may not have the strength to stop that much mass solidly.....yet.


Rob your exactly correct / above (it is hard to write a problem) any thoughts on corrective action? I was going to try starting him in the Football throw position w/ the ball band repetivly so he could feel (pivotal impact?)


Well I would hesitate to make any recommendations without seeing a clip of him first.
At 15, there is no way he has the lower body strength (after you have told us that he has had a problem) to support 240#s, that could be the issue, but you know your pitcher best.
Perhaps an evaluation by a qualified p coach and strength and conditioning coach might help and a consideration to fix his mechanical problem (if he has one).

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