How were these handled?

NewUmpire posted:

Thanks Dad - yes I know the lines are within the box.  But say a batter stands with his heels on the line and the rest of the foot clearly outside the box?  Is that considered "within" the batters box?  If no, why then if a batter swings, and his heel is on the line but the rest of the foot out is that legal?  This is of some considerable debate in our association.  It seems that one coach has taught his players to crowd the plate, so much so that only the heels are on the line.  For a HS player with size 12 - 13 feet, the batter is clearly over the plate.  To if 90% of the foot extends beyond the boundary of the lines on the batters box, is the batter really within the batters box?

Before the pitch, both feet must be entirely within the box. On the swing, both feet must be at least partially in the box.

 Rule 7–3 article 2 .....  Hit the ball while either foot or knee is touching the ground completely outside the lines of the batters box or touching home plate.

 Penalty for infraction of article to the ball becomes did immediately and the batter is out. 

NewUmpire posted:

Is that considered "within" the batters box?  If no, why then if a batter swings, and his heel is on the line but the rest of the foot out is that legal?  This is of some considerable debate in our association.  

It's different because there are different requirements for "getting ready to hit" and for "hitting the ball."  Matt has the correct ruling.  For more references, see FED cases 7.3.2A, B, C, and D.

If after that it's really a matter of "some considerable debate" you need a new association.

How about this one....from a D1 game yesterday.  Runners on 2nd and 3rd.  DEEP fly to CF on a windy day.  CF looks like he is beat....turns and runs on a full sprint toward the fence....and makes a tremendous over the head, back handed catch.  2B umpire is about 25 feet out in the grass and calls the OUT.   Both runners had left so early that everyone in the place noticed.  The runner from 2B actually stopped about 15' toward 3B when the catch was made...hesitated like he was going to go back and then just kept going.  Runner from 3B was almost at home when the catch was made.  This would have been 3rd out.  Defensive team appeals to 2B.  2B umpire calls him safe....which he couldn't have seen as he was 25' out in the grass and made the OUT call on the catch.  Umpires don't even confer....2B ump tells defense that runner is safe and play continues.

1.  How do 3 umpires miss 2 guys blatantly leaving early

2. How does 2B ump make a call as to whether or not a runner on 2B that was directly behind him, left early or not...as he was watching a guy 200' away make a running catch at the wall??

Luckily it didn't matter...only one run scored in the inning...but it was a strange play all the way around.

It's not hard to break the rules on both feet in the box by the third inning. Often the lines are obliterated by then.

In a travel game an opposing coach tried to get my son called out after hitting a home run. The pitcher was slow with stuff. My son stood in the front of the box. The coach claimed my son strode out of the box. The umpire asked the coach to show where he was over the line. The lines were gone.

When I was in high school, I had the same event of CI occur. I hit the catchers hand and the PU didn't call CI until he asked me if I made contact with the catcher. I didn't feel anything but when we looked down at the catcher the catcher had his glove off and was holding his wrist in a sort of protective way. This is what clued the PU into calling the CI.

Visual proof of CI or even HBP makes the call easy.  I've know umpires who have asked players and for the largest part the players answer honestly....But putting the  player in the situation of not being truthful or hurting the team isn't something I support. 

its my job, I make the call.....with all the tools and evidence I have at hand... 

First; CI if you see it call it....to me I would NEVER ask a player.....it's my call !!! Second; The basepath is determined by where the runner started, not the "line" between the bases. I would ave asked you to wait a minute and confered with my partner. I, if I made the call would then I would give you my explanation. If the coach starts pointing to the "sport" where the cleatmarks are he would be in SEVERE jepordy of getting tossd!

BUCKEYE 2015

I do not know about D1 but HS........Three man mechanics....third base umpire is the "Rabbit" If the CF is going straight back he goes out, this then reverts to a "Two Man" game.