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Got another weird one here. Situation: bottom 7th, 1 out, 1-2 count. Pitch is delivered in dirt and goes to the backstop, but rebounds. Catcher picks up the ball and throws over F3’s head, runner safe at 1st but doesn’t advance to 2nd.

 

Here’s the dilemma. Had the batter reached 1st with no throw or the throw too late, it would be scored a K with a WP. But once the catcher made the bad throw, it started all kinds of discussions in the stands. I thought and still do that a WP has to be scored, but a lot of folks are saying it should be an E-2.

 

Digging around OBR I found these references.

 

2.00 A WILD PITCH is one so high, so low, or so wide of the plate that it cannot be handled with ordinary effort by the catcher.

 

10.12 ERRORS

(d) The official scorer shall not charge an error against: (5) any fielder when a wild pitch or passed ball is scored.

 

(e) The official scorer shall not charge an error when the batter is awarded first base on four called balls, when the batter is awarded first base when touched by a pitched ball, or when the batter reaches first base as the result of a wild pitch or passed ball.

 

(f) The official scorer shall not charge an error when a runner or runners advance as the result of a passed ball, a wild pitch or a balk.

 

The way I interpret those rules, there was definitely a wild pitch, and that set the stage for what was to come. Since the WP took place those 3 rules in 10.12 take precedence.

 

Thoughts?

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Originally Posted by bballman:

I agree with BFS here.  

 

You didn't mention in your OP, but I am assuming that the pitch in the dirt was strike 3 to the batter and it was the batter advancing to first.  When I first read it, I kind of thought there was a runner on first that the catcher was trying to pick off.

 

 

I see it as both apply.  Wild Pitch definition in effect on what at 1-2 is presumably a 3rd strike allowing the Batter/Runner to try to advance.

At that moment the Rule 10 provisions begin to apply.  Speculation - The rules makers are writing out double jeopardy of giving a player an error when a Wild Pitch from the pitcher put the play in motion.  Very similar to can't assume a double play.  IMO. 

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