HS Game FPSR ?

I' leaning towards wrong. 

Was it a legal slide? 

How could contact be beyond HP when F2 has his left foot on it? 

Sounds like exactly runners are supposed to do?

Were F2 a lefty and in his throwing motion and R3 was out by several steps guess I could start to lean towards maybe, it could be done. 

But a bang- bang, I got nothing..     

Legal slide BUT he went thru the plate  beyond the plate and made contact.

Doesn't sound like the slide was directly to the base.  If that's true, you got it right.

It a FPSR violation. He doesn’t have to slide but if he chooses to do so it must be a legal slide. If it's a force out, and he chooses to slide then he can only slide directly into the base or away from the fielder. That means his entire  body must go into the base, trunk, arms, and legs. He can't slide through the base and make contact. You called it right from what you described.

Thanks guys..what I saw was a legal slide that the runner turned into a "take out" slide to break up a possible double play by sliding beyond the plate and between the legs of the catcher. I have pics from the NFHS that show when contact is made beyond the bag at second to call interference. No difference at HP!

There is no difference between home and second so if what happened on the field is covered by the pictures from the NFHS at second you are correct.

Its unclear from your description though whether the runner made contact with the foot on the plate and then slid through (which would be legal) or slid through / past the base and THEN made contact (which would be illegal).

I'm with the others that are confused.

Given your description of the catcher's position, it is impossible to have contact beyond the base.

I just get an email from the State Interpreter he confirmed my ruling. Thanks for all your help!!! Love this forum!!!

That doesn't mean it is correct.  What did they consider to confirm your ruling?

Dash I emailed him the post I first posted

OK maybe this will clarify; throw from 2nd baseman to home. The catcher puts one foot on home plate the other is up the line towards first base in fair ground. He slid across the plate. The catcher with the runners feet between his had no possibility of making a throw to first.

(OK we have a slide at second into the SS who is on the SS side of the base....interference.)

I see this as the same.

What we are confused about is that if the catcher had one foot on the plate and the runner slid across the plate how did the runner end up between the catchers legs?

And if the runner slid across the plate and continued in the straight line along the third base line extended then it doesn't really matter that he ended up between the catchers legs.

The way I read it is that the runner slid partially across home plate and partially up the first base line, not directly across home???????

I think you answered the why the call was made in your first paragraph. OP has left foot on the plate and right foot up the baseline, right and the slide goes thru the legs - what do you think the runner was trying to do?  Break up the double play, but to do so he must have legal slide...

In FED 2-32-2(c) defines an illegal slide as "the runner goes beyond the base and then makes contact with or alters the play of the filter, or"

Again, what would you call at 2B or 3B if you saw something similar.

OK I don't understand, what would be a FPSR violation at HP?

If the catcher was on 3BLX, or on either side of the plate, and the play was altered at that point, it would be a violation.

Matt if he was on the 3BLX would'nt he be in front of the base and in my case the catcher was on the other side of the plate toward 1BLX

Maybe this is a case of you had to be there

POLO - your latest description of the play is a FPSR violation because the slide was illegal (not directly to the base) and it altered the play of the catcher.

I'm going to disagree, based on this statement: "He slid across the plate."

I understand your point, but he also made this statement:

(OK we have a slide at second into the SS who is on the SS side of the base....interference.)

I see this as the same.

If he slid across the plate with one leg, with the other leg up the 1st base line, that is not a legal slide on a force play.

There was a FED ruling about twelve years ago that the fielder is not protected if standing on a bag or   plate.  The runner has the right to the top of the bag/plate.

I remember it.  It addressed contact that was initiated on top of the base, with further contact beyond the base (no violation).  But it was predicated on a slide that was directly to the base with both legs.

No. It wasn't.  

If contact is made on top of the base, it does not matter if one foot/leg went to the side of the base.  There would be no contact away from the base and it was the point of contact that was the issue.

Additionally, it would be highly impractical to require runners to always slide with their feet together. 

Very interesting...I have been educated in the finer points of sliding. This forum is by far the most informative. Keeps the brain moving

OK, this is a very misunderstood rule. If the fielder is in front of the bag or on top of it when the contact is made, it is legal. If the contact is made to either side or behind the bag, it is illegal. He also can slide at the bag but reach out with his leg, a leg whip, that is illegal. This applies to all bases including home. 

Now in the OP you say he slid at the plate but made contact behind the plate, that is a violation. If the contact had been on the plate and carried him past, then he would fine, even if it was intended to be a take out slide. 

Thanks MST

I was not addressing the OP.

This was covered in the NCAA SF clinic.  No call on a leg away from the base unless that is where the interference is.  If runner slides into bag and does not make contact or alter the play in protected zone, doesn't matter where the leg was.  

Point of interference/contact is the issue.  Much like the old mantra, "Gotta have interference to call interference."

Agree 100%.