Anyone attend one of showcases and what type of results compared to a PG showcase. Would this be good for someone looking more at local colleges? Thanks for any help.
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2011 has been to a couple of their's. They are well run and I believe the results carry some weight. They use some of the data to "rank" kids in their publication and web sight. I don't know who in the way of college coaches reviews the publication but they often have a few college coaches at the showcases. The showcase results are available for free on the site. Overall, like I said, well run and pretty good for the money.
They also have a well run Fall League program in case your son is interested.
They also have a well run Fall League program in case your son is interested.
Forgot to add, not nearly the same weight as a PG event but for colleges following IL baseball it has value. Iknow interest in my from certain Midwest schools came from them.
It has been my experience that this money is better spent elsewhere, especially where the fall league is concerned. There really is no comparison between PBR and PG. JMO
My biggest question is who's doing to the evaluation and ranking?? There's a lot of groups out there that have people ranking and evaluating that have no MLB scouting experience. How can you give a credible evaluation or ranking when you have no MLB scouting experience? As a college recruiter and coach thats the biggest question. There is one big group(no names) and everyone that goes through their system is a D1 player!! It's a shame cause the kids are affected in the end. If you tell a kid he's a D1 player and he's not, he won't even think about D3 or smaller D2 schools, when he is really a D3 or small D2 player. Then he has no idea how to manage expectations when he never gets a D1 offer!!
Would like to know credentials of guys evaluating kids at all these showcases. Last one I went to was not impressed by the interest of the evaluators in the kids and there comments on players that I know--way off on many--(ex; my sons 10-6 curve--he doesnt throw a 10-6 curve?). Seemed any LHP got higher grades for being LHP--Would be nice for them to remember that many of us aren't rich 
and pay a lot to go.
All depends on what you want out of life... If you want a good ranking from PBR, it will cost you. Showcases, fall leagues.. etc. Money talks, and those who don't see the value in it will likely not be a PBR fave when rankings come out.
Regardless of who is hosting the event before you send a check ask what schools have attended the event in the past and what schools have committed to the upcoming event. If you get the response that they can't name the schools or that the results are posted on a website or e-mailed to college coaches I would pass on it. Also, if you do get a listing of schools make sure that your son is interested in the schools attending. Spend your money wisely.
GetMyNameOut.com's head evaluator is the former National Crosschecker for the Baltimore Orioles and San Francisco Giants. He has 30 years of MLB scouting experience. If you go to a Getmynameout showcase event, you can be assured that you are getting an honest credible evaluation.
"Would like to know credentials of guys evaluating kids at all these showcases. Last one I went to was not impressed by the interest of the evaluators in the kids and there comments on players that I know--way off on many--(ex; my sons 10-6 curve--he doesnt throw a 10-6 curve?). Seemed any LHP got higher grades for being LHP--Would be nice for them to remember that many of us aren't rich and pay a lot to go."
"Would like to know credentials of guys evaluating kids at all these showcases. Last one I went to was not impressed by the interest of the evaluators in the kids and there comments on players that I know--way off on many--(ex; my sons 10-6 curve--he doesnt throw a 10-6 curve?). Seemed any LHP got higher grades for being LHP--Would be nice for them to remember that many of us aren't rich and pay a lot to go."
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All depends on what you want out of life... If you want a good ranking from PBR, it will cost you. Showcases, fall leagues.. etc. Money talks, and those who don't see the value in it will likely not be a PBR fave when rankings come out.
I agree with JKennedy. It seems the more you spend with PBR the higher they rank you. I'm going to be taking a different avenue and avoiding PBR this time around.
Ever notice how the only kids getting any pub from PBR have a picture of themselves in front of the PBR logo? Hmmmmm.
quote:All depends on what you want out of life... If you want a good ranking from PBR, it will cost you. Showcases, fall leagues.. etc. Money talks, and those who don't see the value in it will likely not be a PBR fave when rankings come out.
Are not they all like that? Unless your son is a 95mph super arm. Wish they could measure heart and composure. 
Gotta disagree with some of you. I was cynical at first, but PBR was very kind to my son and he never attended a showcase. Trust me. He is no freak of nature either.
Several of our kids from the Bullets and from Southern Illinois in general have never been to an event and ranked. Tanner Bushue, Lucas Hileman, Eric Barrett, Patrick Keating, Mike Broadway and several guys who were lower profile were ranked high also. They never attended any event from PBR.
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Let's get Bill Brady elected and that'll put the great Downstate of Illinois on the map! That's where it should be...and should have been all along.
Congratulations to all of the under-rated and unhyped players from downstate. You guys from down there know they're good. They know they're good. That's what is important. Keep up the good work... your players deserve everything they have earned!
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Let's get Bill Brady elected and that'll put the great Downstate of Illinois on the map! That's where it should be...and should have been all along.
Congratulations to all of the under-rated and unhyped players from downstate. You guys from down there know they're good. They know they're good. That's what is important. Keep up the good work... your players deserve everything they have earned!
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Showcases and camps are not cheap and can add up quickly, so in my son’s case we are only spending the money on camps and showcases we know that the schools he is interested in and have shown interest in him will be there to see him first hand. I just don’t see the point of spending the money if no college or pro scouts will be in attendance.
Really not to concerned about who is ranking him, more about getting him in front of the college coaches that want to see him, their opinion is the only one that really counts at this point. JMO
Really not to concerned about who is ranking him, more about getting him in front of the college coaches that want to see him, their opinion is the only one that really counts at this point. JMO
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Our experience with Prep Baseball Report Illinois has been very positive. Our 2010 son did one showcase and a fall league program, which were both very organized and efficiently run. The publisher is very involved in watching high school baseball through out the state. He attends high school baseball games in the spring and summer, travel baseball games in the summer, various baseball showcases (PBR and non-PBR), and uses data collected from these events to evaluate players and then publishes his rankings in their publication and web sight. There are numerous players ranked in PBR who were seen outside of their own showcases.
My son has never attended a PG showcase so I can not comment or compare the two however I can tell you that many of the college baseball coaches from Illinois and other states that spoke with my son this past year are quite aware of PBR and their rankings. You can go to the website of many college baseball teams and read about the players they signed during the early signing period. They will refer to some source of local player rankings either PBR or similar publications. I copied and pasted below the news posting from the Illinois State Baseball’s website regarding their early signing period for the class of 2010. (as a side note this is not the school my son will be attending next year)
"The Redbirds signed three pitchers - Joe Claver (Downers Grove, Ill.), Johnny Lieske (Machesney Park, Ill.) and Dan Savas (Rosemont, Ill.) - two infielders - Bryan Huff (Bloomington, Ill.) and Brock Stewart (Normal, Ill.) - a catcher - Mike Hollenbeck (Joliet, Ill.) - and an outfielder - Eric Aguilera (Cary, Ill.). Lieske is the top pitcher and No. 2 prospect in the state according to Prep Baseball Report and is joined by Hollenbeck (16), Claver (17) and Stewart (23) in the publication's top-25 rankings."
I believe Prep Baseball Report Illinois is a great source of exposure for local baseball players looking play baseball beyond high school. Not everybody is perfect and he will be the first to tell you. But players are evaluated honestly and fairly.
Good luck to your son.
Our experience with Prep Baseball Report Illinois has been very positive. Our 2010 son did one showcase and a fall league program, which were both very organized and efficiently run. The publisher is very involved in watching high school baseball through out the state. He attends high school baseball games in the spring and summer, travel baseball games in the summer, various baseball showcases (PBR and non-PBR), and uses data collected from these events to evaluate players and then publishes his rankings in their publication and web sight. There are numerous players ranked in PBR who were seen outside of their own showcases.
My son has never attended a PG showcase so I can not comment or compare the two however I can tell you that many of the college baseball coaches from Illinois and other states that spoke with my son this past year are quite aware of PBR and their rankings. You can go to the website of many college baseball teams and read about the players they signed during the early signing period. They will refer to some source of local player rankings either PBR or similar publications. I copied and pasted below the news posting from the Illinois State Baseball’s website regarding their early signing period for the class of 2010. (as a side note this is not the school my son will be attending next year)
"The Redbirds signed three pitchers - Joe Claver (Downers Grove, Ill.), Johnny Lieske (Machesney Park, Ill.) and Dan Savas (Rosemont, Ill.) - two infielders - Bryan Huff (Bloomington, Ill.) and Brock Stewart (Normal, Ill.) - a catcher - Mike Hollenbeck (Joliet, Ill.) - and an outfielder - Eric Aguilera (Cary, Ill.). Lieske is the top pitcher and No. 2 prospect in the state according to Prep Baseball Report and is joined by Hollenbeck (16), Claver (17) and Stewart (23) in the publication's top-25 rankings."
I believe Prep Baseball Report Illinois is a great source of exposure for local baseball players looking play baseball beyond high school. Not everybody is perfect and he will be the first to tell you. But players are evaluated honestly and fairly.
Good luck to your son.
And the other day I saw a D-1 coach making his recruiting list straight out of the latest issue of PBR... 
Putting your child directly in front of the colleges that he is interested in attending remains the best value for your dollar. Go to THEIR camps instead of relying on a ranking service to promote your child.
Any parent with lots of time/money involved in PBR/TT and subsequently promoted through it's channels will speak highly of them. In the end though, it is the attributes of the player, i.e. grades, attitude and talent, that will get them noticed, not a PBR ranking.
See you tomorrow... BH. You're still my hero.
Putting your child directly in front of the colleges that he is interested in attending remains the best value for your dollar. Go to THEIR camps instead of relying on a ranking service to promote your child.
Any parent with lots of time/money involved in PBR/TT and subsequently promoted through it's channels will speak highly of them. In the end though, it is the attributes of the player, i.e. grades, attitude and talent, that will get them noticed, not a PBR ranking.
See you tomorrow... BH. You're still my hero.
My advise: Enjoy the baseball, it doesn't last forever. Maybe The PBR helps and maybe it doesn't. After having two kids got through the process, I'd say read the magazine and enjoy it, and if you can't then don't worry about it. One thing that I really liked about it was that I got to know about a lot of other players besides those I knew....that made it all more fun.
Take my word for it, in a year or two down the line when most of these kids aren't playing any more, what you will be left with is all the enjoyment of watching your kids and others play ball.
"They love a player until they find another they love even more."
Take my word for it, in a year or two down the line when most of these kids aren't playing any more, what you will be left with is all the enjoyment of watching your kids and others play ball.
"They love a player until they find another they love even more."
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Well said FBD! So very true.
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Well said FBD! So very true.
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Thanks FBD I agree--I really do enjoy it there is nothing better. Just trying to soak up all the knowledge and advice on this site from guys like you to help guide my boy. Always good to be reminded as to smell the roses 
I have weighed in on this in years past, but I'll throwq my two cents in.
First, my son plays at Heartland ad I have had the pleasure of watching two future Redbirds, Brian Huff and Eric Aguilera (Ags also played on Norwood with my son). Huff is a solid consistent SS who can make all the plays defensively and has great hands. He leads off and hits well in the .400's over .500 OBP. He crushed one in the playoffs yesterday. Ags looks like he is playing 16 inch softball at times he hits so well. He hits the ball as consistently hard as anyone Ive seen, and wouldn't be surprised if he were drafted in a year or two. Also hit a bomb yesterday.
Heartland has at least 8 kids that were ranked in the top 150 by PBR. They can all play ball. PBR in my opinion, helps your recognition. Kids that they see all the time and play for Top Tier may get more recognition, but it may be because they see them more and not all about money. Going to one of their showcases get you times by a credible source. You can send out inf with your 60 times and your velocity as a pitcher or fielder. If you get in the magazine, it doesn't hurt and can help.
Stevenson is the best showcase bar none for the exposure, plus it is a bargain. Problem, you have to be in certain conferences and selected. My son and several others we know gto hooked up there.
College camps were not great because while you pick the school you want to be seen at, you don't know what they are looking for and you are spending time and money in front of one college instead of many.
One thing that hasn't been mentioned that has worked for several kids I know is a video sent with the college info sheet. You don't need to have it professionally done either, but you should learn the angles the coaches want to see as far as fielding and hitting. Put it on a disk and send it to colleges you have interest in.
Travel ball works. Norwood has a bunch of players playing in college. Actually, almost all my son's Norwood teammates are playing in college. Some are thrilled, some have looked for other opportunities. It is one thing to get to a school. It has to be the right circumstance. A lot of the coaches are not what they seem. My son got lucky with Coach Metzger. He gave all the kids a chance, and you can earn your playing time. My son is very happy at a JUCO. He gets some playing time as a freshman, is gettinng prerequisites done, and is playing with a great group of kids who can really play ball. Besides Huff and Ags, at least 5 others are moving on to D1 ball next year.
Summary, Stevenson or Plainfield great if you can get there. PBR, good showcases and the magazine helps, vidoes can work very well.
Good luck! I am on my way to Springfield to watch the rest of the playoffs for the series.
First, my son plays at Heartland ad I have had the pleasure of watching two future Redbirds, Brian Huff and Eric Aguilera (Ags also played on Norwood with my son). Huff is a solid consistent SS who can make all the plays defensively and has great hands. He leads off and hits well in the .400's over .500 OBP. He crushed one in the playoffs yesterday. Ags looks like he is playing 16 inch softball at times he hits so well. He hits the ball as consistently hard as anyone Ive seen, and wouldn't be surprised if he were drafted in a year or two. Also hit a bomb yesterday.
Heartland has at least 8 kids that were ranked in the top 150 by PBR. They can all play ball. PBR in my opinion, helps your recognition. Kids that they see all the time and play for Top Tier may get more recognition, but it may be because they see them more and not all about money. Going to one of their showcases get you times by a credible source. You can send out inf with your 60 times and your velocity as a pitcher or fielder. If you get in the magazine, it doesn't hurt and can help.
Stevenson is the best showcase bar none for the exposure, plus it is a bargain. Problem, you have to be in certain conferences and selected. My son and several others we know gto hooked up there.
College camps were not great because while you pick the school you want to be seen at, you don't know what they are looking for and you are spending time and money in front of one college instead of many.
One thing that hasn't been mentioned that has worked for several kids I know is a video sent with the college info sheet. You don't need to have it professionally done either, but you should learn the angles the coaches want to see as far as fielding and hitting. Put it on a disk and send it to colleges you have interest in.
Travel ball works. Norwood has a bunch of players playing in college. Actually, almost all my son's Norwood teammates are playing in college. Some are thrilled, some have looked for other opportunities. It is one thing to get to a school. It has to be the right circumstance. A lot of the coaches are not what they seem. My son got lucky with Coach Metzger. He gave all the kids a chance, and you can earn your playing time. My son is very happy at a JUCO. He gets some playing time as a freshman, is gettinng prerequisites done, and is playing with a great group of kids who can really play ball. Besides Huff and Ags, at least 5 others are moving on to D1 ball next year.
Summary, Stevenson or Plainfield great if you can get there. PBR, good showcases and the magazine helps, vidoes can work very well.
Good luck! I am on my way to Springfield to watch the rest of the playoffs for the series.
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Well said bballdad1954. Thanks for your insight.
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Well said bballdad1954. Thanks for your insight.
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Well said bballdad1954!
I had two kids and their experiences were totally different. Personally, I think many of these college coaches rely too much on PBR. From what I have seen this spring, my other thought is that I think many kids from Southern IL get less PR than kids from around here too. Maybe not the top guys (Bushue,Broadway)though.
I had two kids and their experiences were totally different. Personally, I think many of these college coaches rely too much on PBR. From what I have seen this spring, my other thought is that I think many kids from Southern IL get less PR than kids from around here too. Maybe not the top guys (Bushue,Broadway)though.
I agree with what some have already said — PBR can definitely help.
By attending showcases, a player gets noticed whether it's good or bad and if the player is in the top 200 or whatever in the magazine it definitely spurts talk within that player's opponents.
I think word of mouth is just the biggest thing in terms of showcases and things like that. As far as a player being seen by a college coach or any other scout-like personal, the summer reigns supreme over the spring season.
P.S. If anyone on here subscribes to PBR, I'm interested to see the Class 3A playoff predictions that were posted today. If you would be kind enough to PM me that info, it would be greatly appreciated. My information flow has taken a downturn ever since they decided to make all their content non-accessible to non-paying viewers. Thanks
By attending showcases, a player gets noticed whether it's good or bad and if the player is in the top 200 or whatever in the magazine it definitely spurts talk within that player's opponents.
I think word of mouth is just the biggest thing in terms of showcases and things like that. As far as a player being seen by a college coach or any other scout-like personal, the summer reigns supreme over the spring season.
P.S. If anyone on here subscribes to PBR, I'm interested to see the Class 3A playoff predictions that were posted today. If you would be kind enough to PM me that info, it would be greatly appreciated. My information flow has taken a downturn ever since they decided to make all their content non-accessible to non-paying viewers. Thanks
I was asked how to get invited to Stevenson. Stevenson and Plainfield are tournaments between certain conferences. Each conference picks juniors to represent it at teh various showcases. So either you are in those conferences or not, then you have to be selected to participate at all conference meetings.
It's been a long time......
I haven't posted on these boards in probably 4 or 5 years, but have watched. My son just finished 4 pretty good years of baseball at the University of Rochester in New York. H e was on the 2005-06 Lyons Township teams. They were pegged to win state, ranked number in the state for awhile, and for a period ranked nationally in Baseball America.
My point...my son Andy Cannon, his senior high school teammates Kyle Cocoran, James Murrey, and Alex Larson all played in college for all four years. Kyle at a D1 school and the rest at D3's. None of the All-Staters from LT's team played for more than two years. Why?? THey were not the "big men on campus" anymore. And I don't mean to sound negative about this. I just want all of the future collegiate players to realize that if you don't have extremely good talent, you will have a very hard time getting regular lineup time at a D1 school. Everyone of those players probably were all-staters as well, some better than most.
My son wanted to play as soon as he got to college, and he did. He didn't want to wait a year or two waiting until someone else quit, or was drafted by the pros. He also fit a need by his coach at his school. Coaches always look for players they need from year to year. Mostly pitching, shortstops, catchers, and outfielders, in that order. However, "if you can hit, they will find a place fo ryou in the lineup." Just like in high school.
PBR, Pefect Game are venues for your sons to have an opportunity of having a college coach or pro scout see your son perform. Don't slam these organizations because of what they might charge as a fee. It takes a lot of money for fields, umpires, grounds keeping, etc. to put on these events. Remember, they are giving your son an opportunity to showcase his talents, even if it is at a cost to do so. You can't do it anywhere else, because you don't have the resources like they do, namely the coaches and scouts.
Ask "TRhit" what it takes. He'll tell you.
I've given my opinion, and you all know what those are like. Seriously, don't push your son to play D1 or go Pro. Have him make the decision, with your intelligent guidance of course, to go to a university where he "can play" and get a great education. Baseball isn't forever, but his happiness is!!
JMHO
I haven't posted on these boards in probably 4 or 5 years, but have watched. My son just finished 4 pretty good years of baseball at the University of Rochester in New York. H e was on the 2005-06 Lyons Township teams. They were pegged to win state, ranked number in the state for awhile, and for a period ranked nationally in Baseball America.
My point...my son Andy Cannon, his senior high school teammates Kyle Cocoran, James Murrey, and Alex Larson all played in college for all four years. Kyle at a D1 school and the rest at D3's. None of the All-Staters from LT's team played for more than two years. Why?? THey were not the "big men on campus" anymore. And I don't mean to sound negative about this. I just want all of the future collegiate players to realize that if you don't have extremely good talent, you will have a very hard time getting regular lineup time at a D1 school. Everyone of those players probably were all-staters as well, some better than most.
My son wanted to play as soon as he got to college, and he did. He didn't want to wait a year or two waiting until someone else quit, or was drafted by the pros. He also fit a need by his coach at his school. Coaches always look for players they need from year to year. Mostly pitching, shortstops, catchers, and outfielders, in that order. However, "if you can hit, they will find a place fo ryou in the lineup." Just like in high school.
PBR, Pefect Game are venues for your sons to have an opportunity of having a college coach or pro scout see your son perform. Don't slam these organizations because of what they might charge as a fee. It takes a lot of money for fields, umpires, grounds keeping, etc. to put on these events. Remember, they are giving your son an opportunity to showcase his talents, even if it is at a cost to do so. You can't do it anywhere else, because you don't have the resources like they do, namely the coaches and scouts.
Ask "TRhit" what it takes. He'll tell you.
I've given my opinion, and you all know what those are like. Seriously, don't push your son to play D1 or go Pro. Have him make the decision, with your intelligent guidance of course, to go to a university where he "can play" and get a great education. Baseball isn't forever, but his happiness is!!
JMHO
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Boomer,
First, congratulations on Andy's great accomplishments over the last 4 years at Rochester! I have followed most of the LT players over the past several years. James Murrey had a great career at Macalester and has a chance to get drafted. I completely agree with your point about making your college choice based on education and opportunity, but your choice to take a stab at the unfortunate family circumstances that clearly played a part in the "shortened" careers for the "all-staters" was distasteful. There was another "all stater" that is now playing double A for the Yankees organization that had a very good D1 college career, and an underclassman from that team that is still enjoying a very good D1 career.
Your point is still valid--let the kids pursue their dream at whatever level THEY want to play at, and more importantly, get a great education!
First, congratulations on Andy's great accomplishments over the last 4 years at Rochester! I have followed most of the LT players over the past several years. James Murrey had a great career at Macalester and has a chance to get drafted. I completely agree with your point about making your college choice based on education and opportunity, but your choice to take a stab at the unfortunate family circumstances that clearly played a part in the "shortened" careers for the "all-staters" was distasteful. There was another "all stater" that is now playing double A for the Yankees organization that had a very good D1 college career, and an underclassman from that team that is still enjoying a very good D1 career.
Your point is still valid--let the kids pursue their dream at whatever level THEY want to play at, and more importantly, get a great education!
Both a PG event and PBR are going to net similar results, although PG does a better job providing free analysis than PBR. It is still dependent on how well your child does compared to how well PG/PBR promote their events, each will be attended by coaches/scouts and the rosters will likely determine how well they attended.
PBR is going to rank a player one way or the other regardless if they attend a PBR event. Of course, if they run an event and your child does well there (given they have their own eyes there under showcase conditions), you shouldn't be surprised if they ranked them high. It's not any different than going to a collegiate camp or being taught lessens by scouts on the side, who now have a better idea about that athlete than someone who hasn't worked with them.
Some people put too much emphasis on these publications, it's all subjective.
PBR is going to rank a player one way or the other regardless if they attend a PBR event. Of course, if they run an event and your child does well there (given they have their own eyes there under showcase conditions), you shouldn't be surprised if they ranked them high. It's not any different than going to a collegiate camp or being taught lessens by scouts on the side, who now have a better idea about that athlete than someone who hasn't worked with them.
Some people put too much emphasis on these publications, it's all subjective.
Boomer,
I hope this doesn't bother you. I will delete it if you want me to. You should be very proud of your son! For us, it's always fun to watch them grow up and be successful.
Andy in 2005
Andy in 2010
I hope this doesn't bother you. I will delete it if you want me to. You should be very proud of your son! For us, it's always fun to watch them grow up and be successful.
Andy in 2005
Andy in 2010
PG - thanks for posting that.
Boomer has always been one of my favorites here at the hsbbweb. He speaks from the heart and is a class act. Sounds like his son Andy may be a doctor someday. Wonderful story and all the best to that young man in the future!
Boomer has always been one of my favorites here at the hsbbweb. He speaks from the heart and is a class act. Sounds like his son Andy may be a doctor someday. Wonderful story and all the best to that young man in the future!
quote:Originally posted by ltobserver:
Boomer,
First, congratulations on Andy's great accomplishments over the last 4 years at Rochester! I have followed most of the LT players over the past several years. James Murrey had a great career at Macalester and has a chance to get drafted. I completely agree with your point about making your college choice based on education and opportunity, but your choice to take a stab at the unfortunate family circumstances that clearly played a part in the "shortened" careers for the "all-staters" was distasteful. There was another "all stater" that is now playing double A for the Yankees organization that had a very good D1 college career, and an underclassman from that team that is still enjoying a very good D1 career.
Your point is still valid--let the kids pursue their dream at whatever level THEY want to play at, and more importantly, get a great education!
Than you for the "props" regarding Andy.
If what I said about "big man on campus" offended you, I'm sorry. Knowing that it was that way at LT has no bearing on a families circumstances after the fact. I know full well about the situation you may be refering to, and by no means is what I stated pointed toward "distaste" to that situation or out come. It's very, very sad that it happened to that family.
quote:Originally posted by PGStaff:
Boomer,
I hope this doesn't bother you. I will delete it if you want me to. You should be very proud of your son! For us, it's always fun to watch them grow up and be successful.
Andy in 2005
Andy in 2010
PRStaff....
No, it doesn't bother me, and thanks for bringing back that old memory. Those numbers did improve a bit. I'm only sorry we didn't do more of your events. I've never really talked about what he has done in college, because this is a high school related site. Everyone wants to see their son, sons friend, or neighbor do well after high school baseball. Whether it be DI, II, III, or Pro, you like to hear about those successes.
quote:Originally posted by ClevelandDad:
PG - thanks for posting that.
Boomer has always been one of my favorites here at the hsbbweb. He speaks from the heart and is a class act. Sounds like his son Andy may be a doctor someday. Wonderful story and all the best to that young man in the future!
ClevelandDad.....
WOW, it has been awhile, hasn't it. When I make my excursions to Rochester a few times a year, I always think about you and Mentor. I always ask myself, "self, I wonder what ClevelanDad is up to." But, lazy old me just never took the time to find out. I really hope you are doing well?? I guess my days as a baseball parent have come to an end. I now have to watch the Cubs and White Sox. ESPN Sunday Night Baseball is more enjoyable!!
I miss all of the good banter that went on, especially with "playhard" and Petrulis. Really good guys. "Time flys" as they say, and and who ever made that statement up sure was right about that. Anyway, I have three graddaughters now and I'm pushing both daughters for six more, so I can coach their softball team. LOL hahahaha
Boomer,
How do you MINOR in Biomedical Engineering?
LWNDad
BSE, Biomedical Engineering
University of Iowa, '80
How do you MINOR in Biomedical Engineering?
LWNDad
BSE, Biomedical Engineering
University of Iowa, '80
Rochester is a unique university in that there is no standard curriculum that forces a student to take a certain number of well-rounded subject matter. A student sets their own course of study around a chosen career path they would like to obtain a degree in. They can concentrate and put more emphasis on that field. They do however require a student to take what is referred to as a "cluster" or clusters in a particular area, Humanities, Social Sciences, etc. A cluster is made up of three classes in that discipline as mentioned above. A student sets up their classes focused around a major of their choosing. As an example, Biomedical Engineering. You have the normal math, science, and engineering related classes (fluid dynamics, heat transfer, etc.). As an engineering student you are required to take only one cluster. Other fields require two clusters.
My son followed the Biomedical Engrg. path the first two years at UR. He really wanted to be involved in research geared toward diseases, anti-aging, and so on. that is when he declared his major in Biology, Cellular and Developmental. He aquired enough Biomedical Engrg. credits to gain the minor. And he did have two clusters because he changed his major. He also had AP credits from high school that helped as well.
I hope this answered your question.
My son followed the Biomedical Engrg. path the first two years at UR. He really wanted to be involved in research geared toward diseases, anti-aging, and so on. that is when he declared his major in Biology, Cellular and Developmental. He aquired enough Biomedical Engrg. credits to gain the minor. And he did have two clusters because he changed his major. He also had AP credits from high school that helped as well.
I hope this answered your question.
Boomer,
Thanks for the info on Rochester.
Your son has done very well with that class load and playing college baseball. You have a right to be very proud.
Thanks for the info on Rochester.
Your son has done very well with that class load and playing college baseball. You have a right to be very proud.
Boomer – It’s great to see you’re alive and well. It seems like yesterday we were sitting in the stands with Sweaty (GOD Rest His Soul) and Pat O’C, watching LT and OPRF battle for the West Suburban Silver crown.
Congrats to Andy. He is a tremendous success. You and your family must be extremely proud.
I agree with your comments 100%. If you think high school goes by quickly – just wait until the college years fly by. It will be over before you know it. Don’t waste your time – you’ll turn around and it will be over.
I have seen many a quality ball player, the best in the nation, at the D1 college level, top 25 programs, end-up not getting drafted – looked over. All that glitters isn’t gold…. It’s simple math if you take the time to dig up and crunch the numbers. Even if you’re drafted, that odds of making the BIGS are slim. I know several young men who kicked around the minors and the independent leagues, 2 played (and one is still playing) in Europe – Germany and Italy, with great success.
Please don’t take this the wrong way but be brutally honest about your abilities and what you want to do… You don’t know what you don’t know. Stay humble. If you don’t – this game has a way of reminding you…
Pick a school for an education. Pick a school that if you couldn’t play tomorrow you would still stick around. It is extremely hard to change schools from both an academic and athletic stand-point. I know a young man who was a starting short stop for 2 years who quit baseball his last year because he needed to spend time hitting the books so that he could get in to post graduate school (med-school). Priorities change – injuries can stall or end a career in a blink of an eye.
Regarding showcases et al; we had a great experience with the PG events (showcases and tournaments) and with the Stevenson Showcase. Most of my son’s interests came from these events. My son played for Buddy Swift – Indiana Yankees and then with Bill Copp and the Illinois Oriels (before Bill got famous). These quality programs placed my son in venues (several were PG events) the resulted in direct college interest. My son’s high school coach worked to expose my son to several programs that resulted in direct recruitment. One a major D1 that he refused to talk to because he just hated the school from rooting for their nemesis/rival all his life (kids are funny like that). We also put together a profile/resume and included a homemade DVD and sent this to colleges upon requested. My point being, you must take an active role in exposing your son – don’t rely on a showcase or event.
It is far easier to get an academic scholarship that it is getting an athletic scholarship.
Seasons go by quickly and before you know it you graduate. Time waits for no one…. My son’s career ended last week. He has a diploma from one of the top academic universities and ended up winning a national championship. Boy did that go by fast…
Good Luck all and remember to have FUN.
Smokey - Over and Out.
Congrats to Andy. He is a tremendous success. You and your family must be extremely proud.
I agree with your comments 100%. If you think high school goes by quickly – just wait until the college years fly by. It will be over before you know it. Don’t waste your time – you’ll turn around and it will be over.
I have seen many a quality ball player, the best in the nation, at the D1 college level, top 25 programs, end-up not getting drafted – looked over. All that glitters isn’t gold…. It’s simple math if you take the time to dig up and crunch the numbers. Even if you’re drafted, that odds of making the BIGS are slim. I know several young men who kicked around the minors and the independent leagues, 2 played (and one is still playing) in Europe – Germany and Italy, with great success.
Please don’t take this the wrong way but be brutally honest about your abilities and what you want to do… You don’t know what you don’t know. Stay humble. If you don’t – this game has a way of reminding you…
Pick a school for an education. Pick a school that if you couldn’t play tomorrow you would still stick around. It is extremely hard to change schools from both an academic and athletic stand-point. I know a young man who was a starting short stop for 2 years who quit baseball his last year because he needed to spend time hitting the books so that he could get in to post graduate school (med-school). Priorities change – injuries can stall or end a career in a blink of an eye.
Regarding showcases et al; we had a great experience with the PG events (showcases and tournaments) and with the Stevenson Showcase. Most of my son’s interests came from these events. My son played for Buddy Swift – Indiana Yankees and then with Bill Copp and the Illinois Oriels (before Bill got famous). These quality programs placed my son in venues (several were PG events) the resulted in direct college interest. My son’s high school coach worked to expose my son to several programs that resulted in direct recruitment. One a major D1 that he refused to talk to because he just hated the school from rooting for their nemesis/rival all his life (kids are funny like that). We also put together a profile/resume and included a homemade DVD and sent this to colleges upon requested. My point being, you must take an active role in exposing your son – don’t rely on a showcase or event.
It is far easier to get an academic scholarship that it is getting an athletic scholarship.
Seasons go by quickly and before you know it you graduate. Time waits for no one…. My son’s career ended last week. He has a diploma from one of the top academic universities and ended up winning a national championship. Boy did that go by fast…
Good Luck all and remember to have FUN.
Smokey - Over and Out.