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During CASon's fall ball game this weekend he was consistently up in the zone in his first inning of work against a strong hitting team and was lucky to get out of the inning with allowing only 1 run on no hits. The way he was missing was typical of a pitcher opening early or a pitcher not finishing. His fall ball coach, a current minor league pitcher, got with him between innings and told him to stride more closed during his warm ups before the next inning. Problem is that CASon's stride is just fine. He works off the left side of the mound and that can give the appearance of striding open. He pretty obviously tried to incorporate the closed stride during warmups and all it did was block him up so his arm couldn't get through. He struggled through his second inning despite a first pitch of the inning pop up in front of the plate that nobody went after, but finally with two outs got one down in the zone to a good hitter who launched it. He wasn't throwing a lot of strikes being up in the zone but the pitches were effective when they did get over the plate as they were simply popping them up. IMO, he was simply overthrowing a bit working at 83-84 when his working velocity should be around 81-83 for best location.

I had to bite my tongue while the coach was telling him to change his mechanics between innings. My advice to him would have been to take a little bit off his pitches and find low in the strike zone during warm ups with no talk about mechanics at all.

BTW, I checked his stride the next day and although one can't be certain given that he was only shadowing the pitches he was striding slightly closed and there was no indication of anything otherwise.

I'm going to tell him that if he gets the same advice from the coach again to simply start from around the middle of the rubber instead of the left side and not to change his stride at all. I think that will satisfy the coach without introducing any major changes to his pitching. It'll take a little movement off his fastball and make his curve a little easier to throw for a strike, but that is better than trying to make mechanics changes.

This was probably one of the best teams in the nation they were playing but they didn't get a lot of hits against our pitching with only CASon giving up any significant amount of runs and they only got 2 hits off him with one being a pop up 10' in front of the plate. We only threw one of our two starters against them and he dominated them for his couple innings, working high 80s with good command. They did do a good job of laying off breaking pitches out of the zone and from what people tell me they had a couple very good pitchers throw in the first game and didn't throw a couple of their best pitchers at all.
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Geez....you guys are still playing fall ball??

Eek

Must be nice. Cool

Since fall ball is more "instructional" in nature (at least around here) it could be a good time to try a mechanical adjustment.

Since the games usually don't mean a whole lot it can be a good time to try things out.

If the game has more riding upon it, then I would probably shy away from anything mechanical unless the pitcher was all over the place.

My .02.
I agree with RobV, it would be nice to be playing ball now! As far as making adjustments during the game, I am not a big fan of trying something until you have worked on it in bullpen sessions and have a good comfort level with it. That said, I do not want to disregard what a coach it telling your son. I am not sure how your fall season works. It may be the only time this coach is able to work with him and these games may be used for trying things and developing pitches. It does sound as though he was flying open but it is hard to say when I am not there. He might benefit more from a mechanics reminder, such as keep your front shoulder pointing to the catcher, rather than trying something new in the heat of battle.
I didn't want to follow up on this until he'd had a chance to throw a pen and check where he was landing. He drew a line from where he was standing and his stride was dead on the line. His control was good in the pen. Even so the coach still tried to make changes in his mechanics afterwards. Funny thing is I looked through clips of a few pitchers and found a couple that he had similarities to. He's never tried to emulate anyone's mechanics but his overall motion including arm action is the most similar to Roy Oswalt's, however the early stages of the motion, i.e, rotating the shoulder closed a bit, and lower body action through foot plant, which were what the coach was trying to change, are almost identical to those of Mariano Rivera. I don't think that's something you want to change. There are a lot of different ways to pitch out there and Rivera's motion into foot plant is completely different from Dan Haren's but both work.
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In this case not idiotic, just inexperienced. This is a top notch young man trying to help my son. When he makes it to the majors I'll be saying something like "He helped my son back when he was a minor leaguer."

Our program is lucky that we've had a lot of minor league and college players come back to help out with the current kids during the off season, as well as coaching the JV teams. It says something about the players and the program.
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