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The following situation happened during a very long inning the other day:

Team A hits a 2 run home run. After the home run, it is brought to the umpires attention by Team B that there have already been 3 outs in the inning (F8, F9 early in the inning and a 5-4 FC the pitch before the homerun).

The scoreboard was incorrect the entire inning, both umpires did not catch this mistake until after the 2 - run homerun. Team A, Team B and both umpires agreed that there had been 3 outs prior to the home run.

What do you do with the 2 - run homerun that happened after the actual 3rd out of the inning? Who should lead off the next inning?
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Originally posted by BCRockets:
The following situation happened during a very long inning the other day:

Team A hits a 2 run home run. After the home run, it is brought to the umpires attention by Team B that there have already been 3 outs in the inning (F8, F9 early in the inning and a 5-4 FC the pitch before the homerun).

The scoreboard was incorrect the entire inning, both umpires did not catch this mistake until after the 2 - run homerun. Team A, Team B and both umpires agreed that there had been 3 outs prior to the home run.

What do you do with the 2 - run homerun that happened after the actual 3rd out of the inning? Who should lead off the next inning?


Hmmm...well, I'm just going to project the HR into the next inning, so that run doesn't score until then.

In all seriousness, this is a situation where there is no rules basis other than the definition of a half-inning. Since, legally, the offense's time at bat ends after the third out is made, nothing can occur after that.

If I was one of the umpires (well, I wouldn't be, cos I'd never let this happen, but...) I'd nullify any action after the third out. Proper batter next inning is the one following whoever was the batter at the time the third out was made.

This will open a can of worms, however, if the error is not discovered for a few batters--if there are substitutions, are they valid? How long is too long to fix this?

In FED, we can use 10-2-3(l) to basically erase any activity after the third out was made--this allows us to rectify any disadvantage caused by a reversal of a decision. OBR does not have that language, so we could use 9.01(c)--however, the cans of worms will still be in existence, since substitutions are covered by rule. A few years ago, there was a situation in MLB where the umpires ruled that the ball stayed in play. OC substitutes his runner, then asks for replay. Replay showed it was a home run, but he was now stuck with having a sub, which he would not have done had it been ruled a home run initially.

So, in essence, in FED, I'm retroactively ending the inning at the third out, and nothing beyond that happened (except any warnings, restrictions, or ejections.) In OBR, I'm leaning towards the same, but I'm not so sure I have the authority in the rules to wipe out everything.
If the third out happened before the HR, it didn't actually happen. It doesn't mean he can't tells his female friends about it, but otherwise it didn't occur.

Shame on the umpires, coaches and scorekeepers for not knowing how many outs there were before this happened. The umpires aren't the only ones keeping track of this stuff.

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