At Harbor Park. Dean Ali hit a two-run homerun and recorded the final six outs in the Braves 4-3 win.
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Indian River 4 - Grassfield 3
Junior Dean Ali tried to keep Indian River's offensive barrage going from the 18-hit game Tuesday versus Nansemond River by blasting a 1st inning 2-run HR (his 5th) into the picnic area at Harbor Park. However, the game quickly became a pitcher's duel.
Indian River's Junior Matt Dickason & Grassfield's Cody Cox, each touching 88mph on the stadium radar gun, battled it out for 5 innings before some clutch baserunning by Dickason & Senior Malcolm Young pushed the Braves ahead for good as they took the victory 4-3.
Ali came in to pitch the get the last 6 outs, earning the save. With the win the Braves move to 12-2 overall, 10-2 district.
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Junior Dean Ali tried to keep Indian River's offensive barrage going from the 18-hit game Tuesday versus Nansemond River by blasting a 1st inning 2-run HR (his 5th) into the picnic area at Harbor Park. However, the game quickly became a pitcher's duel.
Indian River's Junior Matt Dickason & Grassfield's Cody Cox, each touching 88mph on the stadium radar gun, battled it out for 5 innings before some clutch baserunning by Dickason & Senior Malcolm Young pushed the Braves ahead for good as they took the victory 4-3.
Ali came in to pitch the get the last 6 outs, earning the save. With the win the Braves move to 12-2 overall, 10-2 district.
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Way to go IR Boys! And a Homerun at Harbor Park Ali, what a great night for him.
The IR GF game was a great game. I would not consider a balk and a wild pitch clutch base running, but never the less IR did win a very exciting game.
DC I agree although I would say that the catcher should have smothered it.
It's a judgment call I understand but (Rule 6-1-3) the pitcher shall go to into the "stretch" motion without interruption and in one continuous motion. He shall come to a complete stop with the ball in both hands in front of his body and in his glove at or below the chin. Note: Failure to come to a complete stop or stopping with both hands above the chin constitutes an illegal pitch or a balk. Ali should have been called on not coming to a complete stop; however he did do a masterful job of mixing it up with legal pitches. I also was disturbed upon hearing that the home plate umpire told the catcher (something to the fact of) "I want to get this over so I can go home." not very professional I thought. That by no means is an excuse; we had a plethora of opportunities to score. 13 LOB, 3 lead off 2b's that only one converted to a run and 2 bases loaded opportunities with one out that produced no runs.
Cody Cox not only pitched a great game but also hit 2 for 3 (BB, 2B), other offensive contributors were Rian Ellis 1 for 3 (2B, IW, ROE?). Greg Milner 2 for 3 (BB), Nykolai Ellis 2 for 4 (BB, 2B).
It's a judgment call I understand but (Rule 6-1-3) the pitcher shall go to into the "stretch" motion without interruption and in one continuous motion. He shall come to a complete stop with the ball in both hands in front of his body and in his glove at or below the chin. Note: Failure to come to a complete stop or stopping with both hands above the chin constitutes an illegal pitch or a balk. Ali should have been called on not coming to a complete stop; however he did do a masterful job of mixing it up with legal pitches. I also was disturbed upon hearing that the home plate umpire told the catcher (something to the fact of) "I want to get this over so I can go home." not very professional I thought. That by no means is an excuse; we had a plethora of opportunities to score. 13 LOB, 3 lead off 2b's that only one converted to a run and 2 bases loaded opportunities with one out that produced no runs.
Cody Cox not only pitched a great game but also hit 2 for 3 (BB, 2B), other offensive contributors were Rian Ellis 1 for 3 (2B, IW, ROE?). Greg Milner 2 for 3 (BB), Nykolai Ellis 2 for 4 (BB, 2B).
the wild pitch was a pitch the c tried to block but the runner was also like 3/4 down the line.which malcolm young had a good read on a wild pitch.Matt Dickason made the pitcher worry about him.
I have been reading these forums for a long time and I have come to the conclusion (of late) that no matter what any one says about the IR Braves, they always have a come back of some sorts. It is really annoying. This website is to encourage all teams and to report to us who visit this site....but I have been amazed, that this seems to be an IR website -- hats off to a great season -- but I do see a little bit of cockiness happening here which is really not necessary....am I off base here? Love baseball....will always enjoy watching the boys/men play...I just think IR needs to not be so defensive....and get off their soap box ... please..it sounds like they need to make sure everyone knows how great they are and how bad they are beating their opponents...enough already. Enjoy they they are very talented!
my comment.so they can say there oppion and we can't say ours.I hjave been waiting for other scores lately and haven't been many scores.i was at the game so i can give my oppion of what happen.im not here to brag about indian river.
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quote:It's a judgment call I understand but (Rule 6-1-3) the pitcher shall go to into the "stretch" motion without interruption and in one continuous motion. He shall come to a complete stop with the ball in both hands in front of his body and in his glove at or below the chin. Note: Failure to come to a complete stop or stopping with both hands above the chin constitutes an illegal pitch or a balk. Ali should have been called on not coming to a complete stop
GF, what do you consider a complete stop? I left after the 6th inning, so I cannot comment on what you saw in the 7th, if that is the time you think Ali balked.
Also, I have talked to the home plate umpire and he said that he said nothing even close to "I want to get this over so I can go home."
quote:Originally posted by Base Jones:quote:goquote:It's a judgment call I understand but (Rule 6-1-3) the pitcher shall go to into the "stretch" motion without interruption and in one continuous motion. He shall come to a complete stop with the ball in both hands in front of his body and in his glove at or below the chin. Note: Failure to come to a complete stop or stopping with both hands above the chin constitutes an illegal pitch or a balk. Ali should have been called on not coming to a complete stop
GF, what do you consider a complete stop? I left after the 6th inning, so I cannot comment on what you saw in the 7th, if that is the time you think Ali balked.
Also, I have talked to the home plate umpire and he said that he said nothing even close to "I want to get this over so I can go home."
Complete stop - did you not read the definition? I saw it in the 7th - and as far as the home plate umpire, im sure he say's he didnt.
GF, the reason I asked is because I hear very often that "the pitcher didn't stop long enough". He either stopped or he didn't. I'm not saying whether he did or didn't, because you were there and I wasn't. And I'm sure that I know the rules much better than you might think I do.
I would tend to side with the umpire on what he said for two reason, (1) he has never worked at Harbor Park, and would have like to stay there all night, and (2) he is a Marine Corp officer with very high standards.
I would tend to side with the umpire on what he said for two reason, (1) he has never worked at Harbor Park, and would have like to stay there all night, and (2) he is a Marine Corp officer with very high standards.
GF, face it. Everyone thinks that the opposing pitcher balked when they know they didn't, just like everyone thinks that their pitcher's 3-2 pitch should have been called strike three even though it was a foot outside... If you were an impartial bystander to this game, like myself, you would have never even think to have thought a balk occured. The only reason this thought came into your head was to make an excuse for you loss. IR won, fair and square, move on, and don't bash the umpire
quote:Originally posted by Base Jones:
GF, the reason I asked is because I hear very often that "the pitcher didn't stop long enough". He either stopped or he didn't. I'm not saying whether he did or didn't, because you were there and I wasn't. And I'm sure that I know the rules much better than you might think I do.
I would tend to side with the umpire on what he said for two reason, (1) he has never worked at Harbor Park, and would have like to stay there all night, and (2) he is a Marine Corp officer with very high standards.
Reviewing your previous posts and how you addressed it i believe you. What i saw was that he didnt stop. oh and BTW, I am accountable to those same high standards.
quote:Originally posted by baseballfan10001:
GF, face it. Everyone thinks that the opposing pitcher balked when they know they didn't, just like everyone thinks that their pitcher's 3-2 pitch should have been called strike three even though it was a foot outside... If you were an impartial bystander to this game, like myself, you would have never even think to have thought a balk occured. The only reason this thought came into your head was to make an excuse for you loss. IR won, fair and square, move on, and don't bash the umpire
New post - impartial bystander? yea right IR. And if you read my post again it states: "That by no means is an excuse; we had a plethora of opportunities to score"
Do I need to make it any clearer? I don’t blame the umpire.
Thank you GF.
As another note about "did he stop". At the USA South Tournament this past weekend, the Shenandoah head coach was on the umpires before the first pitch about the NC Wesleyan pitcher not stopping. In 9 innings, the umpires did not see him "not stop" a total of 0 times. This is another example of what someone thinks is not stopping, but actually is coming to a complete stop. Umpires are trained to look for certain things that most parents are not aware of.
As another note about "did he stop". At the USA South Tournament this past weekend, the Shenandoah head coach was on the umpires before the first pitch about the NC Wesleyan pitcher not stopping. In 9 innings, the umpires did not see him "not stop" a total of 0 times. This is another example of what someone thinks is not stopping, but actually is coming to a complete stop. Umpires are trained to look for certain things that most parents are not aware of.
Thank you Base for taking the time to explain. Isnt the rule in place to prevent "quick pitch?"
IR? good guess, but no. you should obviously try to get your facts straight before you go off accusing.. and if its not an "excuse", then why spend time researching and posting a detailed rule and making a big deal of something.... just like " im sure the umpire says he didnt say it", im sure you dont think that your making an excuse.
quote:Originally posted by baseballfan10001:
IR? good guess, but no. you should obviously try to get your facts straight before you go off accusing.. and if its not an "excuse", then why spend time researching and posting a detailed rule and making a big deal of something.... just like " im sure the umpire says he didnt say it", im sure you dont think that your making an excuse.
Too bad there isn't an ignore button here!
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quote:Isnt the rule in place to prevent "quick pitch?"
No. Taking the signs off the rubber is to prevent a quick pitch. All good pickoff moves are "deceptive" by nature, especially by left-handers. Coming to a complete stop, whether a fraction of a second or 5 seconds, is to "not place the runner at an unfair disadvantage."
In short, you're running out of 'excuses' 
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but hats off to a great game by both teams. Dickason, Cox, and Ali all pitched great games. Unfortunately for both teams, more so i believe for GF, a few balls that would probably have left a high school park stayed in Harbor Park. Great game, great atmosphere, CRAZY weather
....but hats off to a great game by both teams. Dickason, Cox, and Ali all pitched great games. Unfortunately for both teams, more so i believe for GF, a few balls that would probably have left a high school park stayed in Harbor Park. Great game, great atmosphere, CRAZY weather
GF is the 1 that wrote that post about the rules and yes GF i will give ya'll props it was a good gm.we didn't hit like we did vs. nansemond river but ya'll played us tough. and ya'll hit some sharply balls.i dont know if Dean Ali balked or not.yes and i saw where u said ya'll had bunch chances to score and yes ya'll did.
quote:Originally posted by Indian River Braves:
GF is the 1 that wrote that post about the rules and yes GF i will give ya'll props it was a good gm.we didn't hit like we did vs. nansemond river but ya'll played us tough. and ya'll hit some sharply balls.i dont know if Dean Ali balked or not.yes and i saw where u said ya'll had bunch chances to score and yes ya'll did.
The braves buckled down and made the plays when they had to, to win the game. They never gave up, even after GF came back and took the lead and continued to press. I have said before your coach does a great job keeping them focus and in the game. They won on the field.
I do not give excuses.
Johnny Best came in the seventh inning and also did a nice job against the IR’s top of the line up.
Now IR Braves, Did you really think you were going to get the Cox kid for 18 hits? IR is good and some times the posts on this site don't tell the whole story and represent all the facts on both sides just stats.
RE:River Baseball24 posts "The first 12 Braves reached base (the first 7 faced VMI-bound E. Keeton) in a 10-run first inning." Keeton is not going to VMI to pitch my man, I hope you know that. So what was the point?
The fact that IR had to bring in Ali to pitch after starting the game before against NR is proof of how close and important this game was.
RE:River Baseball24 posts "The first 12 Braves reached base (the first 7 faced VMI-bound E. Keeton) in a 10-run first inning." Keeton is not going to VMI to pitch my man, I hope you know that. So what was the point?
The fact that IR had to bring in Ali to pitch after starting the game before against NR is proof of how close and important this game was.
RE:River Baseball24 posts "The first 12 Braves reached base (the first 7 faced VMI-bound E. Keeton) in a 10-run first inning." Keeton is not going to VMI to pitch my man, I hope you know that. So what was the point?
Yeah, I let that one go too, lest I be confrontational or classless or ignorant.
Yeah, I let that one go too, lest I be confrontational or classless or ignorant.
quote:Originally posted by Indian River Braves:
...im not here to brag about indian river.
dc heat,i have no idea how many hits we were going to have against cox.I don't know much about Keeton except that pitches.I don't know what Keeton is going to college to play.
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Jimmy Neutron, you have a PM
Jimmy Neutron, you have a PM
Enough is enough already.
1) DC, are you seriously trying to say Keeton is not a top-of-the-line pitcher in this area? Keeton has been all-SED PITCHER since his SOPHOMORE season. He throws 88-91 and WAS recruited to both pitch and hit. In previous posts, it was pointed out by an "old timer" that IR scores runs against "softer teams." Point is, NR is not a "softer" team when Keeton is on the bump. However, please read point 5 & I'll concede a point to you (and everyone else).
2) Check this entire website. Check the biased game reports EVERYWHERE on here (beach schools, GCA, northern posts). I don't think, as adults, there needs to be so much angst, sensitivity & negativity about this whole situation.
3) Everything reported by myself and others about IR has been FACTUAL.
4) I have to say, the maturity level on this site is pretty shocking... especially from the "Bird".
5) Listen, I'll be honest. I can see where the game reports are sensationalized. That is because I cut & paste them from our team website, which is obviously for the parents/players/fans.
I can very easily just do a completely different write up for this site, as many seem to have gone really overboard about this entire thing.
6) Finally, about the game. GF played well. IMO they have a good core of players and should be able to beat any team around on any given day. Cox looked really good on the mound once he started getting the breaking ball over in the 2nd inning. The team plays solid defense and they have some hitters mixed in the middle of the order.
That game could've went either way and IR just caught a break here and there and the pitchers were really effective at getting out of jams and getting K's when they needed them. GF got a huge break as well, though, as a strike 3 WP accounted for 2 of their runs.
1) DC, are you seriously trying to say Keeton is not a top-of-the-line pitcher in this area? Keeton has been all-SED PITCHER since his SOPHOMORE season. He throws 88-91 and WAS recruited to both pitch and hit. In previous posts, it was pointed out by an "old timer" that IR scores runs against "softer teams." Point is, NR is not a "softer" team when Keeton is on the bump. However, please read point 5 & I'll concede a point to you (and everyone else).
2) Check this entire website. Check the biased game reports EVERYWHERE on here (beach schools, GCA, northern posts). I don't think, as adults, there needs to be so much angst, sensitivity & negativity about this whole situation.
3) Everything reported by myself and others about IR has been FACTUAL.
4) I have to say, the maturity level on this site is pretty shocking... especially from the "Bird".
5) Listen, I'll be honest. I can see where the game reports are sensationalized. That is because I cut & paste them from our team website, which is obviously for the parents/players/fans.
I can very easily just do a completely different write up for this site, as many seem to have gone really overboard about this entire thing.
6) Finally, about the game. GF played well. IMO they have a good core of players and should be able to beat any team around on any given day. Cox looked really good on the mound once he started getting the breaking ball over in the 2nd inning. The team plays solid defense and they have some hitters mixed in the middle of the order.
That game could've went either way and IR just caught a break here and there and the pitchers were really effective at getting out of jams and getting K's when they needed them. GF got a huge break as well, though, as a strike 3 WP accounted for 2 of their runs.
Nice jab! Way to stay on topic. 
I don't have a problem with biased reports until you say you aren't bragging when you really are. You are trying to get your players some attention from college coaches, which you have admitted to. That's fine! But, please don't come on here with a veiled agenda. That's all. You didn't like that I called you out. If that makes me immature, then you have bigger issues.
I can admit one thing, Indian River is better this year than I expected. Congrats to Coach West for preparing them well. I didn't have them in the Top 3 of the SE District and I was wrong. It wasn't the 1st time and won't be the last. Good luck the rest of the year.
Not being at the GF game, I really would like to know how Dickason and Young had clutch baserunning on a wild pitch. (This is your chance to brag)
I don't have a problem with biased reports until you say you aren't bragging when you really are. You are trying to get your players some attention from college coaches, which you have admitted to. That's fine! But, please don't come on here with a veiled agenda. That's all. You didn't like that I called you out. If that makes me immature, then you have bigger issues.
I can admit one thing, Indian River is better this year than I expected. Congrats to Coach West for preparing them well. I didn't have them in the Top 3 of the SE District and I was wrong. It wasn't the 1st time and won't be the last. Good luck the rest of the year.
Not being at the GF game, I really would like to know how Dickason and Young had clutch baserunning on a wild pitch. (This is your chance to brag)
Thank you for proving my point... again, Red.
To clarify what I constitutes as good baserunning to those who need it...
In the top of the 5th, IR was down a run with 1 out and Dickason on 2B. The catcher blocks a ball in the dirt. The ball stays right there under him, it doesn't get away. Dickason made a good read on the down angle and took 3rd. The next batter (J. Carter) grounds out & he scores the tying run. The next batter made the last out. If Dickason doesn't make that read, IR doesn't tie the game.
In the top of the 6th, with the game tied and 2 outs, the catcher again blocks a ball in the dirt. This one bounces 8-10ft in FRONT of him, not passed him to the backstop. M. Young makes a great read, jumping on the block, beats Cox to the plate and scores the eventual game-winning run. The batter that was up grounds out to end the inning. Again... no read, no run.
...and by the way, what was said between you & I earlier Redbird... what was said was IF word spreads on some guys at IR who don't have a place to play at the next level, then great, not "I am here to brag about IR". It's time to grow up a little and let this stupid thing go, for the last time. To say you called someone out on something is beyond ridiculous. You made a cheap, immature comment about hoping that some hs kids get "what come around."
I can't even believe, as someone who is supposed to be a moderator, you consistently try and instigate arguments whith childish remarks.
To clarify what I constitutes as good baserunning to those who need it...
In the top of the 5th, IR was down a run with 1 out and Dickason on 2B. The catcher blocks a ball in the dirt. The ball stays right there under him, it doesn't get away. Dickason made a good read on the down angle and took 3rd. The next batter (J. Carter) grounds out & he scores the tying run. The next batter made the last out. If Dickason doesn't make that read, IR doesn't tie the game.
In the top of the 6th, with the game tied and 2 outs, the catcher again blocks a ball in the dirt. This one bounces 8-10ft in FRONT of him, not passed him to the backstop. M. Young makes a great read, jumping on the block, beats Cox to the plate and scores the eventual game-winning run. The batter that was up grounds out to end the inning. Again... no read, no run.
...and by the way, what was said between you & I earlier Redbird... what was said was IF word spreads on some guys at IR who don't have a place to play at the next level, then great, not "I am here to brag about IR". It's time to grow up a little and let this stupid thing go, for the last time. To say you called someone out on something is beyond ridiculous. You made a cheap, immature comment about hoping that some hs kids get "what come around."
I can't even believe, as someone who is supposed to be a moderator, you consistently try and instigate arguments whith childish remarks.
I am not trying to instigate an argument. If you can't have a discussion without getting offended, too bad. I can honestly say I am not the only one who has an opinion about your ocmments. I have let you say your piece, including your ridiculous comments about me. (Yes, ridiculous is spelled with an 'i', not an 'e') I have sat back and let you fire away at me. To be honest, I am getting tired of your passive aggressive comments. It is the same script on every post.
Now...onto baseball...good job on the baserunning. And, just so you know, I don't need to know what constitutes good baserunning. I was asking about the situation. Thank you for the explanation.
Now...onto baseball...good job on the baserunning. And, just so you know, I don't need to know what constitutes good baserunning. I was asking about the situation. Thank you for the explanation.
Bird.... I had IR picked to win the SED outright.
But I also had NR to take second, so I missed that one, and I am still trying to see how that happened.
The race to the tourney is going to be good.
But I also had NR to take second, so I missed that one, and I am still trying to see how that happened.
The race to the tourney is going to be good.
quote:Originally posted by HR Fan:
...I had IR picked to win the SED outright.
Good pick, sir. They are at the top...for now.
I agree. It should be a very good month or so.
NR hasn't clicked yet. Starting 3-4 frosh is hard even though the frosh haven't hurt them at all. They have a good coaching staff as well.
For the very last time, I feel I must respond to my man Redbird.
GREAT examples of passive-aggression:
"What goes around comes around"
"Yeah, I let that one go too, lest I be confrontational or classless or ignorant."
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in response to ...im not here to brag about indian river."
LET IT GO.
I do a game report, YOU INSTIGATE with passive-aggressive comments, I DEFEND MEYSELF AGAINST YOUR CLASSLESS REMARKS... THAT sums this whole thing up... let's just agree to not comment about each other ever again, can we man-up and do that??
As far as the whole point of the site, let me add that I too had NR as the team to beat this year. With Keeton, Rivers, Pitt, Long, (and GB, Hickory & WB "rebuilding")I figured they'd challenge anyone. I thought they and GF were the teams to beat. They still can beat anyone, they are both quality teams, just some tough breaks for each thus far... That and GB, Hickory & WB "reloaded" instead of "rebuilt"
GREAT examples of passive-aggression:
"What goes around comes around"
"Yeah, I let that one go too, lest I be confrontational or classless or ignorant."
"
LET IT GO.
I do a game report, YOU INSTIGATE with passive-aggressive comments, I DEFEND MEYSELF AGAINST YOUR CLASSLESS REMARKS... THAT sums this whole thing up... let's just agree to not comment about each other ever again, can we man-up and do that??
As far as the whole point of the site, let me add that I too had NR as the team to beat this year. With Keeton, Rivers, Pitt, Long, (and GB, Hickory & WB "rebuilding")I figured they'd challenge anyone. I thought they and GF were the teams to beat. They still can beat anyone, they are both quality teams, just some tough breaks for each thus far... That and GB, Hickory & WB "reloaded" instead of "rebuilt"
quote:Originally posted by RiverBaseball24:
"reloaded" instead of "rebuilt"
Way to man up!