Innings need to get a win?

In HS with no real oversight on stats, the reality is that its the coach's (or stat keeper's) call. In a 7-inning game, the norm seems to be 4 innings unless the coach has already scripted something like a 3-2-2 situation to be sure to get work for 3 guys.

In college, the rule is 5 innings unless the coach tells the scorekeeper before the game that the starter will only go "x" innings...if the pitcher goes that far and his team is ahead and holds the lead, the starting pitcher gets the win. Happens a lot on midweek games.

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Originally posted by justbaseball:
In HS with no real oversight on stats, the reality is that its the coach's (or stat keeper's) call. In a 7-inning game, the norm seems to be 4 innings unless the coach has already scripted something like a 3-2-2 situation to be sure to get work for 3 guys.

In college, the rule is 5 innings unless the coach tells the scorekeeper before the game that the starter will only go "x" innings...if the pitcher goes that far and his team is ahead and holds the lead, the starting pitcher gets the win. Happens a lot on midweek games.

Since it is the beginning of the season many coaches only let the kids pitch a couple innings anyway. But if the ace pitches the first inning then the offense pounds out 10 runs, he can be pulled to get the next start and not be wasted on the weaker team. Is either way a win if they pitch less than 3? Is it a national rule, or regional? Is there even such an official rule about it?

This is not the coach or the stat keepers call...but that does happen.....and yes, there is an official rule regarding how a win is calculated....it is a rule often disregarded in the papers and of course makes some HS stats worthless.....

NFHS Rule 9-6 article 6

Winning and losing pitchers are determined as follows:

a: if the starting pitcher has pitched the first four innings or more and his team is ahead when he is replaced and the team holds the lead for the remainder of the game, he shall be the winning pitcher.

b: if a game ends for whatever reason, having gone less than seven innings, then the starting pitcher shall have pitched three or more consecutive innings to be declared the winning pitcher.

The rule goes on to state which reliever gets the win if the above requirements can not be met...

I cant tell you how many times I've read accounts of games that I have umpired where the reported stats do not match the actual legal results of the game....

The NFHS rulebook specifies that you have to go more than half the game, e.g. 4 innings in a 7 inning game, 3 innings in a 5 inning game. There is no provision for a planned short start, as there is under NCAA rules. BUT, as JustBB points out, coaches do what they want to do.

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Originally posted by justbaseball:
In HS with no real oversight on stats, the reality is that its the coach's (or stat keeper's) call. In a 7-inning game, the norm seems to be 4 innings unless the coach has already scripted something like a 3-2-2 situation to be sure to get work for 3 guys.

In college, the rule is 5 innings unless the coach tells the scorekeeper before the game that the starter will only go "x" innings...if the pitcher goes that far and his team is ahead and holds the lead, the starting pitcher gets the win. Happens a lot on midweek games.

If a high school pitcher throws 3 1/3 innings in a 7 inning game with an 8 to 1 lead and only giving up 1 hit and zero earned runs, then is relieved by a pitcher who throws 1/3, who is then relieved by a pitcher who throws the final 3 1/3 innings and the game finishes 8-2-----who gets the win?

FED 9-6-2 - If the starting pitcher is removed before having pitched four or more
innings and his team is ahead, the official scorer shall determine the
winning pitcher to be the relief pitcher who has been the most effective.

 

I'd expect that to generally be the second reliever in your scenario.

Originally Posted by LSURandy:

 

If a high school pitcher throws 3 1/3 innings in a 7 inning game with an 8 to 1 lead and only giving up 1 hit and zero earned runs, then is relieved by a pitcher who throws 1/3, who is then relieved by a pitcher who throws the final 3 1/3 innings and the game finishes 8-2-----who gets the win?

 

One thing’s for certain. The starter won’t get it.

 

Based on the above, I’d say it would likely be the last pitcher.

in high school the most important thing is that the team gets the win