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mos def in the close games and playoffs cuz us at home can see if lie a guy is out
but then they call him safe
but then they call him safe
Bad calls are part of the game.
quote:Originally posted by rhbaseball:
Bad calls are part of the game.
rhbaseball are you serious? so you mean to tell me that if your team was in the champonship game and the ump calls you out (and this would be the game winning score, but you make the 3rd out of the last inning), but you and everyone else knows you were safe. you would say thats ok bad calls are apart of the game? lets get serious here.
Sure I would be mad but it's been like this since the begining of baseball, bad calls have always been part of the game. I honestly don't want to see a red flag being thrown onto the field.
thats what technology is is for to enhance what we have so would it not make since to enhance baseball by have instant replays it makes since. you said it ur self u would be mad
rhbaseball 
cub wat happens ur on the team
o you mean to tell me that if your team was in the champonship game and the ump calls you out (and this would be the game winning score, but you make the 3rd out of the last inning), but you and everyone else knows you were safe.
that won that game wouldnt you be happy?
cub wat happens ur on the team
o you mean to tell me that if your team was in the champonship game and the ump calls you out (and this would be the game winning score, but you make the 3rd out of the last inning), but you and everyone else knows you were safe.
that won that game wouldnt you be happy?
I agree with cub1jon. You guys are saying that if you had a choice between the right call and a possibly wrong call, you would pick the probably wrong one? I can see there being a limit (like in football) of challenges because a manager can argue all day about the ump's strikezone. But on the basepaths- there should definitely be review, and maybe some sort of limit on strikes.
"the next 1"
yeah i would be happy and not say nothing bout the call, but if they end up chaning the calll to the right one i would have to understand
yeah i would be happy and not say nothing bout the call, but if they end up chaning the calll to the right one i would have to understand
Look the review thing in fb isn't even right all the time, and baseball is a lot more complex than fb. Plus, umps will get lazy know their assets are protected if they make a bad call.
The reason I, as an umpire, do not support instant replay is because of how the game is played. Almost every call made in baseball has a direct affect on the continuing action. We don't have the luxury of lengthy timeouts to huddle on every call to get the call reviewed and relayed back to the field to make the call.
The calls that become controversial are for the most part bang, bang plays. If each of these plays were to be picked apart, scrutinized, reviewed, and spit back out, the games would take hours to finish.
As baseball players you cannot support instant replay for baseball. Because in baseball after a call there is usually continuing action that occurs based on most calls. The ball in baseball is still live. If the original call could be reversed then it might screw the players on continuing action.
Example: Lets review a homerun that hits off the top of the fence, the umpire rules it a HR, the defensive coach wants a review… where would you place the runner when an awarded home run is reversed? Give them a double, a triple? What if the runner is slow and probably would have been put out at second by a beeline throw from one of the outfielders? Do you give the defense an out?
I would only support a replay in one narrow situation. If the play as it was called on the field is a dead ball, and the reversal was also a dead ball. This way nobody would be screwed if the play is reversed.
Example: Batter hits a ball down the line that bounces near the line into the seats. The umpire calls it a foul ball, but the replay shows it was fair. Since both the foul and the "ground-rule" double are dead balls. No harm is done upon a reversal.
Part of the beauty of baseball is the human element that makes the game run. It is only the constant replay after replay that allows people to see what they perceive as mistakes. Angle is one of the most important things in making a call and you almost never see the same angle as the calling umpire.
On the same token, what may be an out from one angle is a missed tag from the opposite angle. What matters is the angle that the umpire has because his is the only opinion that counts!
Just as the player makes a split decision when to swing the bat, I have to choose where to place myself and what to look at. Just as the Short Stop had to decide when to dive, I have to decide if that pitch hit the zone or not. Humans decide everything in baseball and that is the way it should remain. Baseball is the last sport that instant replay hasn't invaded yet and for the most part you the players are, playing the same game as the greats of baseball……Ruth, Cobb, Di Maggio, Mantle, Jackson, Bonds, Ripken, Jeter………allow IR and its not the same game..
Credit should be given in this response to a number of umpires who stated this case better than I did...
Just my .02 .....
The calls that become controversial are for the most part bang, bang plays. If each of these plays were to be picked apart, scrutinized, reviewed, and spit back out, the games would take hours to finish.
As baseball players you cannot support instant replay for baseball. Because in baseball after a call there is usually continuing action that occurs based on most calls. The ball in baseball is still live. If the original call could be reversed then it might screw the players on continuing action.
Example: Lets review a homerun that hits off the top of the fence, the umpire rules it a HR, the defensive coach wants a review… where would you place the runner when an awarded home run is reversed? Give them a double, a triple? What if the runner is slow and probably would have been put out at second by a beeline throw from one of the outfielders? Do you give the defense an out?
I would only support a replay in one narrow situation. If the play as it was called on the field is a dead ball, and the reversal was also a dead ball. This way nobody would be screwed if the play is reversed.
Example: Batter hits a ball down the line that bounces near the line into the seats. The umpire calls it a foul ball, but the replay shows it was fair. Since both the foul and the "ground-rule" double are dead balls. No harm is done upon a reversal.
Part of the beauty of baseball is the human element that makes the game run. It is only the constant replay after replay that allows people to see what they perceive as mistakes. Angle is one of the most important things in making a call and you almost never see the same angle as the calling umpire.
On the same token, what may be an out from one angle is a missed tag from the opposite angle. What matters is the angle that the umpire has because his is the only opinion that counts!
Just as the player makes a split decision when to swing the bat, I have to choose where to place myself and what to look at. Just as the Short Stop had to decide when to dive, I have to decide if that pitch hit the zone or not. Humans decide everything in baseball and that is the way it should remain. Baseball is the last sport that instant replay hasn't invaded yet and for the most part you the players are, playing the same game as the greats of baseball……Ruth, Cobb, Di Maggio, Mantle, Jackson, Bonds, Ripken, Jeter………allow IR and its not the same game..
Credit should be given in this response to a number of umpires who stated this case better than I did...
Just my .02 .....
Thank you guys for posting and voting.Especially Piaa_ump,that really helped with my report. My rough draft is due today.
Thanks,
Zack 44
Thanks,
Zack 44
and plus if there is instant replay are we gunna see the managers run on the field and yell at the umps anymore .... NO!!!! thats half the fun in watchin a game is waiting for the manager to run on the field so NO instant replay should NOT be alowwed in baseball
First, an umpire will not miss a call THAT bad very often; if it was plain as night and day, they'd make the right call.
Second, time factor-- already covered above
Third, that's why umpires do not do ball games by themselves. They can ask for help if they need it. Not that they always will, but they can.
Fourth, a comment was made about technology enhancing baseball. My answer to that comes in a form of a question.. Where does technology stop? Why pay millions of dollars to build stadiums if we can just all watch it on TV? Why don't the players just play XBox; it will save on injuries. etc
Second, time factor-- already covered above
Third, that's why umpires do not do ball games by themselves. They can ask for help if they need it. Not that they always will, but they can.
Fourth, a comment was made about technology enhancing baseball. My answer to that comes in a form of a question.. Where does technology stop? Why pay millions of dollars to build stadiums if we can just all watch it on TV? Why don't the players just play XBox; it will save on injuries. etc
Why change baseball if you already love the game as it is..not 1 thing I'd change about baseball. Another thing is baseball is like life. It's got its ups and downs..its fair calls and not fair calls..sometimes you're on top of everything and other times you're really low. Duh baseball is LIFE.
i think that it is unanimous that everyone hates bad calls, but its like the law. sometimes we have to let someone off to protect the constitutional rights, even though they may be guilty. so this is protecting the integrity of baseball. nothing else in baseball is affected by technology, the shape of a bat hasnt chaged, the material a glove is made of hasnt changed, so why should the way we ump change?