Pitcher came in the seventh inning in a 4-0 lead. One out and gave up a double. Wild pitch advanced runner to third. Ground ball to short scores run. Now two outs. Next batter grounds out to pitcher... Game. I was told either tying run had to be on deck or pitcher has to pitch one inning with three or less run lead. Does this situation qualify?
EDIT: This pitcher started and pitched the whole 7th inning. The run scored with one out in the seventh.
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Here's the NFHS (FED) rule. The OBR rule is similar, but of course doesn't give consideration to a pitcher who re-enters the game. 9-6-7:
ART. 7 . . . In order for a pitcher to be credited with a save, he shall meet all
three of the following criteria:
a. he is the last pitcher in a game won by his team; and
b. he is not the winning pitcher; and
c. he meets at least one of the following:
1. he enters the game with a lead of not more than three runs and pitches at least one inning; or
2. he enters the game regardless of the count on the batter with the potential tying run either on base, at bat or on deck; or
3. he pitches effectively for at least three innings.
4. A starting pitcher who is replaced and then re-enters as pitcher can be
credited with a win but not a save.
So this was not a save because the lead was 4 when he entered. If there were an out when he entered (your post isn't clear on this point) then it doubly isn't a save because he didn't pitch a full inning.
If he pitched the entire inning, it should be a save. He gave up a run, which made the final score 4-1; correct? That qualifies as a save.
Pitcher came in with a 4-0 lead? If there were no outs and no one on, this is not a save. If the score would of been 3-0, then it would of been a save. You don't have to pitch a complete inning to record a save. Last week my son entered the game up 4-3, bottom of 7th, 2 outs and the bases loaded. Two pitches and a ground out ending the game. Got the save.
1. he enters the game with a lead of not more than three runs and pitches at least one inning; or
2. heenters the game regardless of the count on the batter with the potential tying run either on base, at bat or on deck;
Can't give him credit for creating the situation where he earns the save...
#2~~ The potential tying run was on deck. Save
#2~~ The potential tying run was on deck. Save
Yes - but he didn't enter the game with the tying run on deck.
He created that situation.
The rule is specifically designed to prevent a pitcher from getting credit for not doing their job properly.
#2~~ The potential tying run was on deck. Save
Yes - but he didn't enter the game with the tying run on deck.
He created that situation.
The rule is specifically designed to prevent a pitcher from getting credit for not doing their job properly.
You could always blow the save/hold opportunity and go for the win!! Haha.
You could always blow the save/hold opportunity and go for the win!! Haha.
True... I think that may be what Heath Bell was trying to do last year. You know, if the Marlin's would have just scored some more runs in the bottom of the ninth, he wouldn't have been tagged with those losses.
See, it's not HIS fault.
Making a mess doesn't result in earning a save. As three finger posted, sorry...
Just be glad he thankfully held on.
