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Sorry if I offended anyone out there in the pitching world.  I was a pitcher as well and I know the difficulties of managing pitching.  Plus usually half your program and three quarters of your scholarships go to pitching.  However, my experience leans towards the belief that good pitching is so hinged on defense and catching that it is difficult to see  programs put it together.  Spanky is known as a pitching guy (3 books) lots of interviews and hyperbole.  But his teams rarely were under 5.50 ERA in his 15 years.  JMU had some of the very best offensive talent in the country yet did not compete well because of pitching.  I know this sounds like I am arguing for a Pitching Coach, but actually the Coaching staff together has to deliver.  Can Head coach come from pitching Coach?  Sure.  Would I start there ....No.  I would seek a young coach that understands the overall game and that has a solid understanding of the whole process.  as a side note, while watching the CWS and seeing how every pitch was held up by Kuhn and the game delayed made me think about how much enjoyment I will get watching our Dukes.  Great Coaches are great leaders.

The buzz appears to be the VMI HC.  I've heard good things about the guy, just not sure why it took so long to make this announcement if this is actually the case when it comes considering VMI's season was done over a month ago.  Unless of course he was not the first option and administration was waiting for someone else.  Either way this is the rumor.

Originally Posted by Titan:

Unless of course he was not the first option and administration was waiting for someone else.

That's my conclusion. Not taking anything away from the selection, but if Coach was the number one selection, then this would've been done a while ago so that the recruiting process could restart sooner. AD compounding errors.

Originally Posted by Oklahoma Ball:

Just got confirmation that it is Ikenberg from VMI.  Time will tell on this but does not look like JMU is planning to climb out of also-ran anytime soon.

 

I am sure the rest of the CAA will be very happy with the JMU decision.

 

Wow, what a slam......

 

Marlin Ikenberry is certainly qualified for this position.

 

Coach Ikenberry did an outstanding job while at VMI consistently placing a competitive team on the field and always recruiting exceptional talent.

 

This at a school with a very different/difficult environment - an environment unattractive to most top Mid-level D1 players.

 

This is a major step up for Coach Ikenberry in terms of recruiting potential over VMI, but he coached in the Big South which is equally if not better than the CAA in my opinion. I doubt anyone in the CAA is jumping for joy, if they are - I believe they will regret it.... 

 

I'm sorry you are so disappointed because I do enjoy reading your posts, but i think Coach Ikenberry is an outstanding selection and I will be watching closely as he grows the JMU program.....

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Guys this is a home run hire for JMU. Ike is incredibly well respected in the coaching community and will be an upgrade if given the tools to succeed (asst coaches salaries would be a concern). He will hit the state of Va recruiting trails hard especially in Richmond and Nova. Ike is a great man and a great coach. If I am a JMU fan I am really excited today
Originally Posted by wahoo24:
Guys this is a home run hire for JMU. Ike is incredibly well respected in the coaching community and will be an upgrade if given the tools to succeed (asst coaches salaries would be a concern). He will hit the state of Va recruiting trails hard especially in Richmond and Nova. Ike is a great man and a great coach. If I am a JMU fan I am really excited today

Everyone will have a different opinion I guess but I cannot believe the JMU landed here. I think this program has a ton of potential but with this announcement, I'm going to say they will continue to be a CAA bottom feeder. Nothing personal. I just think are many more qualified individuals to lead this program - and some were applicants for the job. It's a decision that screams - baseball is not important at JMU. 

 

I have no skin in the game at JMU but I have been really interested to see how this would play out. And I could not be more shocked at the announcement. 

I agree it is a good hire for both the short-term and long-term.  Coach Ike is well liked, known and respected in Virginia (and region) and a tireless recruiter.  Over the last 7 years (with 3 sons) I saw him everywhere at travel showcases, Legion games and high school games.  He always had time to talk to people, and lets face it this is a people business.   I'm a big Ike fan.  He knows baseball as a former D1 Head Coach & catcher.

 

The question is how long will it take for him to turn this program around, and how much rope is the Administration giving him.  JMU's had the reputation as a hitting ball club.  I would expect JMU to spend more cycles on pitching and defense in the coming years.  We'll see.

 

 

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Originally Posted by fenwaysouth:

I agree it is a good hire for both the short-term and long-term.  Coach Ike is well liked, known and respected in Virginia (and region) and a tireless recruiter.  Over the last 7 years (with 3 sons) I saw him everywhere at travel showcases, Legion games and high school games.  He always had time to talk to people, and lets face it this is a people business.   I'm a big Ike fan.  He knows baseball as a former D1 Head Coach & catcher.

 

The question is how long will it take for him to turn this program around, and how much rope is the Administration giving him.  JMU's had the reputation as a hitting ball club.  I would expect JMU to spend more cycles on pitching and defense in the coming years.  We'll see.

 

 

From my observation, Coach Ike has also been known to recruit the Tidewater area, which JMU has lacked in a major way in recent years.  JMU has one player on the present roster from the Tidewater area.  Just so happens that one player, Kyle McPherson, was also the CAA Rookie of the Year.  I would expect those recruiting numbers to change dramatically.

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Nice to hear the positive remarks about Coach Ike.  I too admire him and agree that he is a nice guy and a hard worker.  Unfortunately, that is how most of his teams performed.  Yes he turned around VMI but almost anyone with a pulse could accomplish that.  The JMU job is a discussion about vision.  For years...and I mean many....JMU was the premier program in Virginia.  Currently I rank them at of near the bottom depending on if you include Virginia College, EMU, Ferrum, and GW.  Fot years I scouted the Valley and also routed quality players to JMU.  JMU played a top notch schedule and was always competitive with the top programs.  It was usually pitching depth that kept them out of the top tier in college baseball, but they were always in or around the top 30. 

Coach Ike will not fix this problem but he may make the program competitive again.  Big deal.  I had hoped that the AD might understand that with College Baseball on the rise that JMU could lift its prominence through excellence in the program. 

Coach Ike is a fine leader, but he runs a program with a total budget less than the salary of UVA's head coach.  The operating budget for this program is 156,000 dollars plus salaries.  This is why many of the top candidates backed out...and yes I have spoken to some.  The overall experience at JMU as a campus is excellent.  The overall experience as a player at JMU is below par.  I would send a quality player to the program because the baseball teaching and experience is sub-standard, and at least 6 schools in Virginia alone offer much more.

I know this seems very negative, but I attended JMU and regard it as my own.  I want the best for the program and I know Coach Ike will do his best.  But I was hoping for much more.

Lastly, I was involved in the UVA turnaround in Baseball.  It involved a lot of moving parts, an aggressive Booster group, and revamped quality facility, and a singular vision to get to be the best.  They understand the process and took the steps to get there.  it involved Legislative action to change salary structures, Title IV re-balancing, AD changes, budget changes, and knowing who the best minds in College Baseball were and are today.

JMU played it safe, saved a lot of money, covered the AD "risk" by settling for "competitive" instead of great.

I would love be very wrong about all of this.  But I am not.

Oklahoma Ball,

 

I understand what you are saying and you bring up some valid points.  But doesn't this go beyond the HC.  The HC is the field & program mgr, a point man for recruiting, managing games and bringing alumni back into the fold....getting them to contribute & participate. The HC and AD have this responsibility together.  My oldest son's former program is conducting a national search right now.  The AD hasn't been shy in asking for donations from former players.  This is the reality of college baseball...it is a cost recovery model for most programs that don't have large boosters or contributors.  .  

 

Your UVA example is a total program overhaul and that came from the AD and Administration...in my mind that goes way beyond the Head Coach.  JMU is not in a top conference nor are they a national presence. Your average Joe on the street knew who UVA was and what the ACC is way before O'Connor got there.  Your average Joe has no idea who JMU is or what conference they are in.  To expect JMU to get a national coach is asking alot based on what is being offered, and their history. The JMU program has potential.  Small steps before large leaps.  To put the woes of a program that hasn't been cared for in a few years on it's new HC is unfair IMHO.  Let's see what develops out of this and give it some breathing room.  JMO.

I'm no expert but my son did play in and around JMU (not main baseball field) a few weeks ago. I went to VT and drove (through really) JMU dozens of times.

 

Great school and campus. It seems a shame that they have not jumped feet-first into systematically rejuvanting their baseball program given the leaps and bounds baseball has grown in Virginia. Maybe we can thank VT and Frank Beamer stagnation for that (and I'm a Hokie alum). This sure seems like a tepid compromise between going all-out and doing the minimum. I truly hope the program moves upward toward excellence. Heck, maybe my 2017 will end up there and in the baseball program...

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