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TRhitTRhit10,000+ posts
Excellent baseball program to say the least--highly ranked every year

We have had players there for many years, in fact one of them , now graduated, works on our coaching staff whenever possible

Yes, you may see 75 players in the fall trying out but that is the way it goes---if you can go there then I recommend you do so
3rdgenerationnation3rdgenerationnation100+ posts
I was very impressed with the program at Hopkins. Coach Babb was the most structured coach 4thGen and I met. They had like 8 coaches on staff. They are a top DIII baseball program but DI in Lacross so the facilities are top notch. Great school obviously. I loved the campus but it is right in Baltimore. They only recruit players that can play at the DI level. 4thGen was more interested in business then science. or I really believe he'd be playing there.
L leftyshortstop1,000+ posts
Coach Babb is an infamous over-recruiter. He brings in many quality ballplayers every year. They have a JV team and many are vaporized. On top of the freshman recruits, they are the only team in the Centennial Conference, and one of the few in D3, with several graduate schools, and thus graduate students. Therefore, freshman are also competing with graduate students that are using leftover eligibility from other D1 and D3. Its a unique situation.
J HJ H5,000+ posts
leftyshortstop- I've heard all of the above as well, and I don't want to nitpick but I did want to correct one thing that some onlookers may come across in search for assistance in the future. The NCAA does not allow D3 players to attend another D3 school and have eligibility in graduate school unless: 1) they graduate from undergrad early or 2) they get their undergraduate degree from the university that they are attending for graduate school. When I was looking to continue my career after my D3 career due to the medical redshirt, the NCAA informed me I would only be eligible at a D1 or D2 institution (or an NAIA).
VB VJC Baseball100+ posts
Johns Hopkins and Coach Babb are in my back yard as a school, I have the utmost respect for what they do on the field and off the field. They have always been respectful (when we started our program and they would destroy us down to the last couple of years where we have had the upper edge). Someone said it earlier if he's recruiting you and you have a chance to go to Hopkins, you do it. As for the "over recruiting" I do not know him to be one that does that. But when you have their type of reputation, many will try out, it's just the fact of being successfull! Hope this helps

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RJMRJMHSBaseballWeb member since 2007
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Originally posted by leftyshortstop:
Coach Babb is an infamous over-recruiter. He brings in many quality ballplayers every year. They have a JV team and many are vaporized. On top of the freshman recruits, they are the only team in the Centennial Conference, and one of the few in D3, with several graduate schools, and thus graduate students. Therefore, freshman are also competing with graduate students that are using leftover eligibility from other D1 and D3. Its a unique situation.
This is the same information I received from the dad of one of their players who did get significant playing time and played two years of pro ball.
RJMRJMHSBaseballWeb member since 2007
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Originally posted by 3rdgenerationnation:
I was very impressed with the program at Hopkins. Coach Babb was the most structured coach 4thGen and I met. They had like 8 coaches on staff. They are a top DIII baseball program but DI in Lacross so the facilities are top notch. Great school obviously. I loved the campus but it is right in Baltimore. They only recruit players that can play at the DI level. 4thGen was more interested in business then science. or I really believe he'd be playing there.
This was our experience as well. Also they started an undergrad and MBA School of Management this past year.
B BK3510+ posts
I suppose the answer is that one must be very confident in their abilities if they go to the school.

My son last night said "he's up for the challenge", not that any offers have been made.

Plus he is all over the place with college selection.

Anyone else with first or second hand experience.

Thanks
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S SwampboyHSBBWeb Administrator
I don't know much about the JHU baseball program, so this is just an observation about the term "over-recruit" as it applies to D3 schools.

It's a fact of life at better D3 schools that the absence of athletic scholarships and national letters of intent means the coach never knows who is really coming and never feels like he can stop recruiting.

Any D3 coach who wants to win is probably recruiting with the goal of creating competition for every roster spot, every position, and every role. If the coach is doing his job, good players will fail to make the roster and excellent players will be sitting on the bench.

That's why so many freshman who had realistic D1 aspirations while in high school are surprised when they show up at a D3 and don't play.

It's probable that coaches at extremely expensive and selective schools like JHU have had many promising prospects slip through their fingers over the years, so it's understandable they might want a bigger cushion for no shows.

Is that over-recruiting? Not necessarily.

I wouldn't pin the pejorative "over-recruit" label on any coach without strong evidence he's not being on the level with the prospects about the situation they'll face when they arrive on campus.
PrepsterPrepster10,000+ posts
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Originally posted by Swampboy:
I don't know much about the JHU baseball program, so this is just an observation about the term "over-recruit" as it applies to D3 schools.

It's a fact of life at better D3 schools that the absence of athletic scholarships and national letters of intent means the coach never knows who is really coming and never feels like he can stop recruiting.

Any D3 coach who wants to win is probably recruiting with the goal of creating competition for every roster spot, every position, and every role. If the coach is doing his job, good players will fail to make the roster and excellent players will be sitting on the bench.

That's why so many freshman who had realistic D1 aspirations while in high school are surprised when they show up at a D3 and don't play.

It's probable that coaches at extremely expensive and selective schools like JHU have had many promising prospects slip through their fingers over the years, so it's understandable they might want a bigger cushion for no shows.

Is that over-recruiting? Not necessarily.

I wouldn't pin the pejorative "over-recruit" label on any coach without strong evidence he's not being on the level with the prospects about the situation they'll face when they arrive on campus.


This is a terrific summary of the reality of D3 recruiting as it's been portrayed to me over the years.
M massbaseballmom10+ posts
Swampboy and others,

Thanks for this eye opener on recruiting in D3 baseball. Son is scheduled to meet with a top program in our area, and we had no idea that the D3 process had its own characteristics. Though, thinking about it now, it does make sense. He'll be much better prepared to meet with coach and ask the right questions after reading this thread.
BaseballmomandCEPBaseballmomandCEP1,000+ posts
Would love to hear the answer to cf's question, does Patriot League need to do the same thing, since they have no scholarship?

(Do they recruit in excess for a cushion)

Can players ask that question when a Pat League and/or D3 coach is recruiting them? Are there assured roster spots for the ones that are aggressively recruited?

I know this has been covered to some extent in the past.
fenwaysouthfenwaysouth10,000+ posts
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CF said....We have visited and are in discussions with Bucknell, even though they are D1, do the patriot league schools also " over recruit"?


Not in my experience. Coach has recruited and slotted athletes that get approved/rejected by Admissions Committee. There is a pre-read process (like ivy) where a recruit will find out if they are likely or unlikely to be admitted. Baseball players will be asked to apply ED.

As a D1 school, Patriot League (Bucknell) is limited to 35 roster spots. Redshirting is allowed for injury only as it is in Ivy.

BTW...Swampboys summary thread of D3 recruiting in general is spot-on. Great summary. It is up to the recruit to ask those tough questions.
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fenwaysouthfenwaysouth10,000+ posts
No baseball scholarships in the Patriot League, unless you play for Army or Navy. Then you get the special Uncle Sammy scholarship. Wink It is need based Financial Aid and some Merit scholarships.

I believe Patriot has basketball scholarships and they just added football according to my neighbor who played football there a hundred years ago.
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3rdgenerationnation3rdgenerationnation100+ posts
First, I will say that Coach Babb was the most objective coach we talked to during my son's recruitment. He could tell you ~ how many at bats you'd get in the fall or how many innings and what would be measure from a physical and performance level. He showed us how his roster had done during fall tryouts and there was no doubt how decsions were made. He also emphasised that he did not recruit players who were not within range academically or were not DI players, (his language). Given that this was the approach he took with all of the recruits we spoke to, why would he not extend that invitation to as many likely candidates as possible? Hopkins is a great school and a great baseball program. A player should be aware of the challenge to make the team, get on the field and keep up in school.

Massmom - 4thGen is a Sr at a top D3 school in MA, send me a PM if we can answer any questions for your son.
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B BillBill100+ posts
They do not just recruit D1 players. I know of a great kid, good baseball player that would have had a hard time getting on the roster at most top tier D3s. He started 3 years at Hopkins. He made contact with the coach during fall of his senior year, sent him some stats, etc., and was welcomed on to the team when began his matriculation there. Good team and great school, but I would say that he recruits only D1 players is a lot of oversell.
A Anita10+ posts
I don't know much about the recruiting at JHU, but my cousin is on the team (going into his senior year). I live in Baltimore and have been watching his progress. He didn't play much the first two years, but is playing a lot now. He's been very happy on the baseball team there (even before he got a lot more playing time) which I think says something positive about the coaching.
A Akadema10+ posts
I will share this about one of our student-athletes who asked me for my opinion about him playing at JHU.

1st of all, this student-athlete is a very nice kid who loves the game of baseball. I told him this, that JHU recruits nationally as a lot of student-athletes recruit them based on their academic situation.

This is a copy of an e-mail the JHU coach sent out student-athlete:

quote:
**** – Thanks for the quick response. I really liked what I saw in your videos and believe that you have a lot of potential as both a pitcher and a shortstop. I really hope that you will be are to attend our camp I October as I would love to meet you personally and see you perform live. My coaches and I plan on making all our recruiting decisions after the camp. I have again attached the info.

I will contact you again after receiving and viewing your transcript. Make sure that it contains your SAT/ACT scores.

Enjoy the beginning of your senior year and do well in all your classes!

Coach Babb



I will say this, when I read the statement about our student-athlete having a lot of potential at SS and as a pitcher ... it threw up red-flags for me. I just don't see that in our student-athlete.

IMHO, it was all about our student-athlete coming to JHU's 1-day camp from 9-5 for $220.

Well, after my opinion on this 1-day camp, our student-athlete went to this one-day camp.

I e-mailed the coach for his opinion of our student-athlete and his response was as follows:

quote:
***** threw the ball pretty well. His velocity on the FB was 80-81 on the slow gun (2-3 mph slower than our Jugs) and his CB was 72/73. A good prospect…………Coach babb
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T twotex1,000+ posts
This is off topic from ops post but responsive to the thread. Some D3s offer a guaranteed roster spot if the player goes ED. In my son's case there was no guarantee of playing time, and in fact, coach said don't expect to play a lot in your primary position your first year.

This information was explained at camp. The players parents at the camp were advised that their son would receive written notification which will indictae where he stands: recruited, recruited walk on, and walk on. The coach said he doesn't want there to be any confusion about how they view the player. Recruited players (guaranteed roster spot) are asked to apply early decision.

I don't believe this approach is unique to one school. Obviously the key is the player asking questions if the coach doesn't volunteer the information.

Of course that doesn't keep a bunch of potential players from showing up in the fall to try out.
C ChickenandbeerMember
I played for Coach Babb many years ago when he first starting out at Hopkins. While the program has grown and changed over the years, one thing I know hasn't changed is Coach Babb's integrity. He is very honest and straight forward, he cares about his players -- past and present -- and his school and treats his players as part of his extended family. Coach Babb still keeps in touch with me and others who played for him, whether they were stars or not, and invites former players back to campus every year for events. While some of this is certainly done to encourage donations to the school and program, Coach Babb, his wife, and family genuinely care about all of the players, whether they regularly attend these events or not and whether they contribute or not. If anyone's kid has a chance to go to school at Hopkins and play for Coach Babb, they won't regret doing so.
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cgc3cgc3100+ posts
Son played 4 years in Conference (recently), not at JHU. I watched JHU play for 4 years. Quality Coach(es) and program. 55+ players on roster. Twice as many as some other teams in Conference. Very few, if any, Frosh play. Have used Grad students with Medical Redshirts. Field on Campus is among worst looked after in Conference. They may be relocating field away from campus. Like to tell recruits they recruit only D1 players. I have seen hundreds of D1 Baseball games and while they may want to recruit such players, only a handful of their players are more than lower D1 players. If you want to play as opposed to just being on the team and are not confident of your ability to get PT at JHU, Swarthmore and Haverford are academicly equivalent, and may give you a better read on likely PT.

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