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I have a friend who needs help figuring this one out.

His son was recruited to a D-3 school. When he got there, he found out there were close to 100 players trying out for the team, most of them promised something. Many were cut in a matter of days, others were asked to play JV for 1-2 years and see how it panned out. He was asked to play JV, and between feeling abused by the baseball program and not really enjoying the school that much on other fronts, he decided to leave and look at other options.

One option is a JuCo that is very interested. However, they have raised some concern that he apparently was enrolled at the D-3 school for a number of days that is apparently beyond some threshold where some rule kicks in. He's being told he may have to wait until next year (2009 season) before he would be eligible to play.

Does anyone know about this rule? Can you enlighten me on the details, and in particular, whether there is any way around it? Does it apply only in the JuCo context, or to any transfer this boy would make? Are there any other rules that could potentially hinder this boy in his efforts to find a new home?
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100! Wow!

I am assuming because he quit school (after a certain number of days passed) he does not fulfill the rules provided by the NJCAA to play immediately (mid year)without a probationary period. He should have continued school to be able to accumulate the number of hours to be considered an eligible transfer right away. Rules may be different for D1, 2, 3 NJCAA schools.
He may also have lost a year of eligibility.

His only option would be to enroll and wait out the time period which is 4 months, I think, making him eligible for next fall.

Best is to call the NJCAA.
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I get a kick out of how the term "ABUSED" gets bandied about---"he felt abused by the baseball program"----I think it is more like the boy did not do his homework before enrolling in this school


Folks you have to do your homework !!!!!


And what ever happened to kids being confident enough to win a spot regardless of how many tried out ??? Perhaps he never had to compete during his earlier years?
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I'll add this to TR's comments.
At any level of play after high school, expect your young player to be in for an absolute dog fight for roster spots and for playing time. There are never any guarantees.
Many of these young players have always been one of the top players in their area...now they are just another player.
Handling this scenario is often the difference between guys that make it and guys that don't.
TR, I don't understand how your comment makes any sense at all.

If 100 guys try out, are you suggesting that if they ALL competed wonderfully they would ALL make the team?

Seems to me any way you slice it, 65 boys get cut after being recruited supposedly to play there. That's 65 boys who might've gone elsewhere -- and gotten to play, too -- had they been told the truth.

This is not something you blame on the players. The coaches are defrauding those boys.
MD,
After reading the JUCO transfer rules, I don't see any option other than sitting out the required time after enrollemnt, if my understanding is correct. Then when the time comes, trying out for the team with the hopes he can get a spot.

What other option would there be? He's not considered a transfer.
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Here are the applicable rules from the NJCAA site. As I understand the Division 1 rules, your 5 year clock starts as soon as you enroll in a fulltime status, whether you finish or withdraw.



D.
Prior to the 15th calendar day from the beginning date of the term for the second full-time semester, as published in the college catalog, a student-athlete must have passed 12 semester hours with a 1.75 GPA or higher.
E.
Prior to the 15th calendar day from the beginning date of the term for the third full-time semester, and all subsequent semesters thereafter, as published in the college catalog, a student-athlete must satisfy one of the following four requirements to be eligible for the upcoming term:
1.
Pass a minimum of 12 semester hours with a 2.00 GPA or higher during the previous semester of full-time enrollment,
OR
2.
Pass an accumulation of semester hours equal to 12 multiplied by the number of semesters in which the student-athlete was previously enrolled full-time with a GPA of 2.00 or higher,
OR
3.
A first season participant must have passed a minimum accumulation of 24 credit hours with a 2.00 GPA or higher for the initial term of participation, regardless of previous term or other accumulation requirements (NOTE: This only establishes eligibility for the initial term, not subsequent terms.),
OR
4.
A first or second season participant must have passed a minimum accumulation of 36 credit hours for a fall sport, 48



C. Transfers from a Four-Year College or from a Non-NJCAA Member College.
Student-athletes transferring from a four-year college or a non-NJCAA member college are either immediately eligible upon transfer or must serve a probationary period of 16 calendar weeks. The following rules determine the student-athlete's eligibility status.
1.
Immediate Eligibility – To be immediately eligible, with no probation required, student-athletes must satisfy the provisions of Section 4.D or 4.E. (Use the rule which is applicable to the transfer student-athlete). NOTE: Before a student-athlete can participate in a second season of an NJCAA certified sport, the provisions of Section 4.F must be satisfied.
2.
Probation of Sixteen Calendar Weeks – A probationary period of 16 calendar weeks and the completion of one academic term with twelve passing credits and a 2.00 GPA or higher is required of student-athletes who did not satisfy the academic provisions of Section 4. Student-athletes serving this 16-week probation period may be added to the eligibility roster at any time after satisfying the provision of the probation period. NOTE: Before a student-athlete can participate in a second season of a NJCAA certified sport, the provisions of Section 4.F must be satisfied.
I can't answer as to the transfer rules question, but since it was stated that the kid felt abused, I think it's okay to address that point. I am in agreement with TR on this. My understanding is that most, if not all D3s do not offer athletic ships. I know the D3 right out my back door does not. Everyone who sets foot on campus to play baseball must try out. We do not know the details of what this young man was told. The advice of doing your homework holds true no matter where you are looking to go.

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