Judging a player

After the facts (speed, mph, ...) the other components may be considered beauty in the eye of the beholder catagory. All of which is important but varies by those judging.

Depends on the coach/scout. I would assume many coaches look at intangibles such as heart and work ethic. Obviously, you want as many studs as you can get with their heads screwed on straight. But from 1 through 9 that is not always possible. I spoke to a HS coach who had a kid by all rights athletically, should not have made the team. This kid worked his butt off and did EVERYTHING the coach asked of him. He was probably chosen over more athletic kids because of this.

Colleges it would seem don't look at projects in the same way. They want polish.

Makeup is considered, definitely, but the body type and potential is the ultimate factor in playing at the next levels. Filling a role at the collegiate level is not a bad fate while attending a university, either. Some of those players prove themselves due to an injury or two...and get their shot. Clubhouse and team leaders aren't measured, always, by their performance on the field. It's the intangibles that coaches can only learn about once a player is on campus...hard to differentiate, though, between someone with no drive and average ability and someone with heart and average ability in one look. Ultimately, being able to say you did everything you could as hard as you could while you were there is the creed by which all athletes should live by.

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While I would never discount heart and work ethic in the eyes of college coaches...

Case Study I am watching...

6'4" RHP, 210, did well in high school, skilled pitcher but never really shined, fast but never had big time velocity. Showcased some, no big time travel ball. Seen by a lot of schools but no one followed through. Finally signed DII. After a solid fall of work, as a freshamn starting the first game on the bump for a DII ranked in the top 10.

While college coaches really love the battler, the winner, they know that a kid with upside tools may simnply flower in a college environment where the work is non-stop, the fitness directed and scientific and a kid really has no choice but to fully commit.

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Dont know how others look at it but for us when evaluating players (HS players), after what we call the coldcuts IE 60yd, radar readings, pop times etc, we like to see players in a few games.

We find that many kids are seen in quite a different light in game conditions. It much than just "heart" it is how the young man plays the game -- How he"reads" things during the game-- how he runs the bases--- does he make things happen-- is he a team player on the field and in the dugout?

Met up with a scout last night i know who has been in the business for over 20 years.

Discussing a pitcher we know, who was NOT drafted. Got ALL the stuff you can imagine, great makeup, work horse, control, velocity, more wins than losses,finesse, every pitch you need, except height.

TPM,

So the scout said the reason he the kid did'nt get drafted was his height?

Correct. So in judging a player, after height, velocity I suppose all the other things will factor.

Isn't that sad? Just out of curiosity, Tiger Paw Mom, how tall is this (otherwise fabulous) pitcher?

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Originally posted by play baseball:
Isn't that sad? Just out of curiosity, Tiger Paw Mom, how tall is this (otherwise fabulous) pitcher?

Under 6ft.
I can tell you that if yu doubt me there are othrs who can say the same about his character, make up, competitveness, etc.
The whole point is, we can go on and on about what scouts look for, what's important for a pitcher, but height is a major factor so I am led to believe.

If he pitches well as a Sr someome will take a chance on him no matter his height.