i just received a email from the asst. coach at wake forest. he saw me play at a showcase in dallas. he said he was intrested inme andwas sending a packet to my HS. whatis in the packet? why to my HS?
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Congratulations on your first contact.it is always exciting to begin to receive interest.A lot of colleges will send info. to the highschool.Packet will have info. about the school,housing, tuition etc. and the some info on the athletics and baseball.Good luck
so is the the first sighn of recruiting?
Congratulations and yes I would say you might think of this as the first sign of be recruited by WF. Might be a good idea to respond to his email with a thank you and that you are looking forward to getting the packet. Others may give you specific wording for that email. How exciting for you and your family. Keep us posted.
thank you. i did andhe thankedme for a prompt response. did WF have coaching change this year?
how serious is this if they are contactingme this early since im only a junior. i have good grades butthis is the first non-form level ive ever recived
tb 2011
You have a pm.
You have a pm.
Packages often go to HS coaches. Partly to keep them in the loop, as some are very possessive and take offense easily, and the recruiters want to tread carefully to avoid giving offense unintentionally. Also sometimes the recruiter knows your school but not your address.
Word to the wise, though. Take more care with your e-mails than you do with your posts. As in, write in complete sentences, spell and punctuate correctly, etc. You are dealing with grown men, and grown men who want to see that you can cut it at a tough school (i.e., not flunk off the team).
If you really are a good student, what do you think you gain by writing like you have some sort of learning disability? Is that supposed to be cool? Are you not aware that it makes an adult (such as a college coach) think you are not so bright?
Word to the wise, though. Take more care with your e-mails than you do with your posts. As in, write in complete sentences, spell and punctuate correctly, etc. You are dealing with grown men, and grown men who want to see that you can cut it at a tough school (i.e., not flunk off the team).
If you really are a good student, what do you think you gain by writing like you have some sort of learning disability? Is that supposed to be cool? Are you not aware that it makes an adult (such as a college coach) think you are not so bright?
Midlo is giving you some great advice. And if you want to get a true feel for the level of interest just shoot them an email and ask them. And its not early for a Jr.
Midlo, you took the words right out of my mouth.
I had a former player of mine forward to me an e-mail he had ALREADY sent to a college coach......I was aghast and embarrassed for the player. It was written so poorly, I can only imagine the coach's first impression.
I had a former player of mine forward to me an e-mail he had ALREADY sent to a college coach......I was aghast and embarrassed for the player. It was written so poorly, I can only imagine the coach's first impression.
Kids write to each other like this all the time. Unfortunately, many do not understand the "generation gap" on this. You cannot write to an adult the way you write to a high school "BFF".
I've had some kids who want to argue this point. "Why should that matter?" Well, it matters to them, and they are the ones making the decisions on you.
Now, maybe some of them won't care. But some will. Why risk taking yourself out of the running? Because you don't know, when you send this stuff, whether they will react neutrally or negatively.
You do know that there is no reason why they would consider it a positive.
I've had some kids who want to argue this point. "Why should that matter?" Well, it matters to them, and they are the ones making the decisions on you.
Now, maybe some of them won't care. But some will. Why risk taking yourself out of the running? Because you don't know, when you send this stuff, whether they will react neutrally or negatively.
You do know that there is no reason why they would consider it a positive.
When and if they get to college, the Professors will react negatively.
You hope!
I usually just lurk in this section reading and learning (son is just a freshman) but have to admit Midlo Dad is right on. After reading the OP's posts, especially the one about good grades, I couldn't help but chuckle to myself and think "in all classes but ENGLISH".
I'm a '11 grad as well and I have similar questions regarding the matter. I apologize if this seems like a thread hijack but most of my questions address concerns that are relevant to the topic, or so I feel.
How far is the leap from the first-interest e-mail to a verbal commitment? In other words, if a coach sends a letter/e-mail of interest, is the rest of the recruiting process mostly just making sure academics are in check, making sure the player is interested in the school, and going through other non-athletic aspects? And how often will a coach withdraw his initial interest in a player?
I'm starting to get several e-mails of interest; I've yet to take the SAT, but once I do and assuming I do well enough on it for all the schools that are looking at me, what further obstacles lie in the way of me committing to one of these schools?
Also somewhat related; I'm looking at mostly top academic institutions and I've heard that Ivy League schools are cautious about sending initial letters/e-mails of interest until a player has concrete test scores that qualify. Interestingly enough though, a few of the e-mails of interest that I've already received are from top academic LACs. Does this indicate that these letters of interest are really rather informal, do not indicate sure-fire interest, and that perhaps I'm not getting these early signs of interest from Ivies yet because I'm not strong enough of a player right now? Is it possible things will drastically change if I score extremely well on the SAT, since Ivies will know that I'm qualified for admission?
How far is the leap from the first-interest e-mail to a verbal commitment? In other words, if a coach sends a letter/e-mail of interest, is the rest of the recruiting process mostly just making sure academics are in check, making sure the player is interested in the school, and going through other non-athletic aspects? And how often will a coach withdraw his initial interest in a player?
I'm starting to get several e-mails of interest; I've yet to take the SAT, but once I do and assuming I do well enough on it for all the schools that are looking at me, what further obstacles lie in the way of me committing to one of these schools?
Also somewhat related; I'm looking at mostly top academic institutions and I've heard that Ivy League schools are cautious about sending initial letters/e-mails of interest until a player has concrete test scores that qualify. Interestingly enough though, a few of the e-mails of interest that I've already received are from top academic LACs. Does this indicate that these letters of interest are really rather informal, do not indicate sure-fire interest, and that perhaps I'm not getting these early signs of interest from Ivies yet because I'm not strong enough of a player right now? Is it possible things will drastically change if I score extremely well on the SAT, since Ivies will know that I'm qualified for admission?
quote:Originally posted by monstor344:
How far is the leap from the first-interest e-mail to a verbal commitment? In other words, if a coach sends a letter/e-mail of interest, is the rest of the recruiting process mostly just making sure academics are in check, making sure the player is interested in the school, and going through other non-athletic aspects? And how often will a coach withdraw his initial interest in a player?
I'm starting to get several e-mails of interest; I've yet to take the SAT, but once I do and assuming I do well enough on it for all the schools that are looking at me, what further obstacles lie in the way of me committing to one of these schools?
Talent. The first two parts of the question can be answered with talent. If you are a top shelf recruit then the distance between initial email and offer is very short. If you are a third option at a position of need, the leap is extended further. This also applies to level of interest and waning of interest from coaches. If you are their third option, and the primary or second option commit, the coach will simply drift away.
quote:If you are a third option at a position of need, the leap is extended further. This also applies to level of interest and waning of interest from coaches. If you are their third option, and the primary or second option commit, the coach will simply drift away.
I don't know how much this changes things but I am a LHP, not a position player. And also, does the fact that they've sent these e-mails of interest rather early in my personal college process indicate heightened interest of am I looking too much into it?
monstor, CPLZ gives you good info.
My son received a "first-interest e-mail" followed by more emails and weekly calls for 2 months from a program, but was later told that they weren't going to be offering money. Never assume that you're a program's first choice.
You mentioned in an earlier post that you are a junior. Most likely, at this point in the game, every program that emails you is also emailing dozens, if not hundreds, of other prospects. I remember attending TCU's Jr. Day with my son in
the spring of his junior year and being informed by the recruiting coordinator that he had whittled his prospect list down to 200.
Definitely respond to each and every email you receive, but make sure to not read too much into each communication. Cast a wide net and hopefully you will have several available options by this time next year.
Best wishes!
My son received a "first-interest e-mail" followed by more emails and weekly calls for 2 months from a program, but was later told that they weren't going to be offering money. Never assume that you're a program's first choice.
You mentioned in an earlier post that you are a junior. Most likely, at this point in the game, every program that emails you is also emailing dozens, if not hundreds, of other prospects. I remember attending TCU's Jr. Day with my son in
the spring of his junior year and being informed by the recruiting coordinator that he had whittled his prospect list down to 200.
Definitely respond to each and every email you receive, but make sure to not read too much into each communication. Cast a wide net and hopefully you will have several available options by this time next year.
Best wishes!
Monster you have had some great advice in all your previous post on this subject. Not sure what you are looking for.
Your questions can only be answered by college you contact. Each will have different needs and wants. You may or may not be of interest any of them. You won't know until you ask them. to
Your questions can only be answered by college you contact. Each will have different needs and wants. You may or may not be of interest any of them. You won't know until you ask them. to
quote:Originally posted by monstor344:
I don't know how much this changes things but I am a LHP, not a position player. And also, does the fact that they've sent these e-mails of interest rather early in my personal college process indicate heightened interest of am I looking too much into it?
Being a pitcher only really changes two things. First, pitchers are usually the first players to be offered before position players. Second, pitchers usually recieve the highest average scholarships.
They are making contact early because they have learned of you early. You've been found, that's great news. Now comes the courting process. They'll want to know more about you, if they like that, they'll want to talk to your coaches, if that goes well, they'll want to see you play. If you are tossing 82-85, that process could take months, if you are firing 92-94, they may be on a flight to your next game to make an offer. That's a little of what I mean by talent.
As Infield08 said, don't assume anything, answer all correspondences and requests, and enjoy the ride.
i'm interested in some thoughts with regard to monstor and infield dads threads...how many e-mails are D1 schools sending out to 2011's? I'm sure that it varies from school to school but are they just throwing them out somewhat indiscriminately at this point. For instance, I've heard that Stanford sends out over 1500.
Also, how would you interpret interest directed to a 2011 that constitutes weekly contact with the player and an invite for an unofficial visit this fall? appreciate any thoughts.
Also, how would you interpret interest directed to a 2011 that constitutes weekly contact with the player and an invite for an unofficial visit this fall? appreciate any thoughts.
quote:I've heard that Stanford sends out over 1500
Is that all ? I would have thought more. Coaches send out lots of emails and invites to camps. They usually get your name off lists from other camps.
Emails, letters etc may mean something but coaches who are interested usually act very quickly .
Coaches use words that keep players on the hook but if they are dragging their feet it is likely you should move on. Believe me they all seem to go to the same school of recruiting.
When you say 1500+ e-mails, are these true e-mails of interest or are they just showcase invites? Because I've heard that showcase invites are meaningless and do not convey interest, whereas 1500 e-mails of actual interest would surprise me.
i am talking about post september 1 e-mails to junior prospects, not camp invites which don't mean much. i have heard, but don't know for a fact, that stanford sends out over 1500 e-mails to junior prospects.
i am curious as to how many players a school like, for instance, wake forest contacts like they did texas boy. does a school like that just send out a ton at first and then narrow it down or do they start with a much smaller pool?
i am curious as to how many players a school like, for instance, wake forest contacts like they did texas boy. does a school like that just send out a ton at first and then narrow it down or do they start with a much smaller pool?
Stanford cast a very large net, due to the difficulties getting in there.I think most schools have pretty big lists to start with as most number ones are everyones number ones in any given area.
quote:Originally posted by hitithard:
Also, how would you interpret interest directed to a 2011 that constitutes weekly contact with the player and an invite for an unofficial visit this fall? appreciate any thoughts.
I would interpret that as reaching the next level of interest after initial contact. I've heard others say that there can be as many as a couple of hundred on the first short list.
If the unofficial visit is either a top choice, or nearby and won't take much effort to attend, I'd go on the visit and get the experience of it.
Keep in mind an email is a long way off from signing with a college.
We received emails weekly from my son's 1st choice for over a year. Personal phone calls offering tickets to football/basketball games and an unofficial visit. Constant allowable contact for the year and high praise after the visit. Refereed to son as a grad A prospect but in the end no offer came. They went with a JC transfer instead.
We were surprised but we said "NEXT". Don't burn bridges, and don't stop talking to colleges until you sign with one.
We received emails weekly from my son's 1st choice for over a year. Personal phone calls offering tickets to football/basketball games and an unofficial visit. Constant allowable contact for the year and high praise after the visit. Refereed to son as a grad A prospect but in the end no offer came. They went with a JC transfer instead.
We were surprised but we said "NEXT". Don't burn bridges, and don't stop talking to colleges until you sign with one.
quote:Originally posted by longtoss00:
I received 1st letter of interest from D1 school on Sept. 1. I returned the forms, gave copy of transcript. What is the usual waiting time of a response back if they are interested?
If you are a LHP that throws 98, about 15 minutes, and times go up from there.
There really is no usual, it all depends on their immediate needs, your percieved value to them. We had one school wait 8 months and then make an offer over the phone without having seen Junior, just based on a scouts report. On the other hand, we heard from some schools right away, but kept on hearing from them every couple of weeks, but never got an offer.
If it is a school you are sincerely interested in, reach out and make contact with them. Send an email to the head coach saying that you've returned the requested documents and you'll be calling him in the next couple of days. Then call him. Coaches love to know who's really interested.
Good Luck.
A lot of this is on you too. Dont just sit there, saying I hope i hear form school ABC. Find a school you might like, and think you can play (check PG committments and roster) and contact them. Tell them who you are, what you do, find out where they will be, and let them know where you will be playing. A LOT of this is self-promotion (not Bragging, but honest about your skills). If you are anything but the highest level player, they will PROBABLY not find you, youve got to get out there and play on a national level, and be proactive in the process.
Did Ivy League schools begin sending letters of interest to 2011s on September 1st? Or do they normally wait for SAT/ACT scores to see who is academically cut out for Ivy League baseball? Or perhaps they mix the two - if they're really pushing for a top prospect they go after him right away? Anyone know for sure?
quote:Originally posted by monstor344:
Did Ivy League schools begin sending letters of interest to 2011s on September 1st? Or do they normally wait for SAT/ACT scores to see who is academically cut out for Ivy League baseball? Or perhaps they mix the two - if they're really pushing for a top prospect they go after him right away? Anyone know for sure?
No one waits in the recruiting game. Again, it's all about talent. The higher the level of talent, the earlier the contact from schools.
High academic institutions can get a feel for a kid by just viewing his HS transcripts and talking to him. Test scores are the separators for borderline admits.