He shoots a blistering -6 under today to move into a 2-way tie for 3rd.
The Masters should be fun to watch this weekend with him lurking around for his possible 5th Green jacket.
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This is a cool topic because it deals with the mental side of sports and as Yogi said...
My whole life, I have rooted for the under-dog unless once-in-a-blue-moon one of my underdog teams like the 95 Indians became good. LeBron James was also an exception to my loyalties and no matter what he has done, I'll never hate him.
All that said, Tiger is one of my exceptions. I have always rooted for him and always loved to see him dominate. Before I left for home this evening, it looked like he was missing the cut. I am thrilled if he is back. I hope the Charley Sheen life-style has not hurt his game - permanently.
All that said, there was another thread today about slumps. Who is in a bigger slump right now than Tiger Woods? How do you think he is handling it?
Even with perhaps probably the greatest "confidence" player of all time, it appears it is possible to lose one's confidence.
It is easy to say in theory one needs confidence but hard in actuality to hold on to it.
My whole life, I have rooted for the under-dog unless once-in-a-blue-moon one of my underdog teams like the 95 Indians became good. LeBron James was also an exception to my loyalties and no matter what he has done, I'll never hate him.
All that said, Tiger is one of my exceptions. I have always rooted for him and always loved to see him dominate. Before I left for home this evening, it looked like he was missing the cut. I am thrilled if he is back. I hope the Charley Sheen life-style has not hurt his game - permanently.
All that said, there was another thread today about slumps. Who is in a bigger slump right now than Tiger Woods? How do you think he is handling it?
Even with perhaps probably the greatest "confidence" player of all time, it appears it is possible to lose one's confidence.
It is easy to say in theory one needs confidence but hard in actuality to hold on to it.
I think this is awesome. I don't agree with his reported (and exaggerated) off the course behavior but that has absolutely nothing to do with golf.
As Randy Jackson would say, "Tiger's In It To Win It!!!!"
As Randy Jackson would say, "Tiger's In It To Win It!!!!"
Exaggerated? Come on Papi. Now even you know that Tiger played more than "18 holes" away from the course. LOL.
I'm glad he's (hopefully) making a come back. He's good for the game, and makes it more exciting to watch. He certainly appeared to have that swagger back today watching him play.
I'm glad he's (hopefully) making a come back. He's good for the game, and makes it more exciting to watch. He certainly appeared to have that swagger back today watching him play.
quote:Originally posted by YoungGunDad:
Exaggerated? Come on Papi. Now even you know that Tiger played more than "18 holes" away from the course. LOL.
Yeah, I know, but there were plenty of unrelated women who tried to jump on that money/publicity train.
Kind of like when a Chicago CTA bus has an accident...225 people claim they were on the bus looking for a settlement.
I'm glad he is doing well.
The criticism he received has been blown way out of proportion to the amount he deserved. I didn't hear of Wilt Chamberlin getting this level of criticism.
I know he has tried to present this Mr. Clean image of himself and that contributed to the feeding frenzy on the guy but come on. This should have been an issue between himself, his wife and maybe some of his sponsors. The round the clock coverage and the tramp of the week interviews on TV and in magazines was over the top.
It is amazing how people in this country show unadulterated glee when their hero's are shown to be just as human as the rest of us.
The criticism he received has been blown way out of proportion to the amount he deserved. I didn't hear of Wilt Chamberlin getting this level of criticism.
I know he has tried to present this Mr. Clean image of himself and that contributed to the feeding frenzy on the guy but come on. This should have been an issue between himself, his wife and maybe some of his sponsors. The round the clock coverage and the tramp of the week interviews on TV and in magazines was over the top.
It is amazing how people in this country show unadulterated glee when their hero's are shown to be just as human as the rest of us.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Wklink:
I didn't hear of Wilt Chamberlin getting this level of criticism.
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Thank goodness for Wilt that the internet was not around in those days. He was spared the propoganda. Had it been around he too would have been under the magnifying glass like Tiger.
I didn't hear of Wilt Chamberlin getting this level of criticism.
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Thank goodness for Wilt that the internet was not around in those days. He was spared the propoganda. Had it been around he too would have been under the magnifying glass like Tiger.
I don't agree about Chamberlain. After all he was single and in our society he was just considered a player(I don't mean in a basketball sense). That didn't make his lifestyle completely right but I don't think he would have been held to the same standard as the married Tiger who was portraying someone he was not. All and all like it was stated above that's between himself, his wife and his sponsors.
Back to the OP....
He struggled with himself today. But amazingly managed to "hover" around close enough to make Sunday quite interesting.
On another note...did you see the old Spaniard Angel Cabrera lurking in the end? He's sneaky AND a great golfer.
He struggled with himself today. But amazingly managed to "hover" around close enough to make Sunday quite interesting.
On another note...did you see the old Spaniard Angel Cabrera lurking in the end? He's sneaky AND a great golfer.
quote:Originally posted by YoungGunDad:
Back to the OP....
He struggled with himself today. But amazingly managed to "hover" around close enough to make Sunday quite interesting.
I noticed that several of his putts were dead on line but came up short. Generally, that's the sign of someone who is not confident in his game.
You're right Coach.
His putting today was horrendous. Un-tiger like if you ask me. Even his shots off the tee were comical to watch. Did you see him laugh after hitting that one tee shot? He was like "what the heck am I doing?"
He was totally different today than yesterday.
I just wonder if young Rory has the stamina and grit to maintain his game to win this thing. I gotta tell ya, he sure has one of the prettiest swings I've seen in some time. wow
His putting today was horrendous. Un-tiger like if you ask me. Even his shots off the tee were comical to watch. Did you see him laugh after hitting that one tee shot? He was like "what the heck am I doing?"
He was totally different today than yesterday.
I just wonder if young Rory has the stamina and grit to maintain his game to win this thing. I gotta tell ya, he sure has one of the prettiest swings I've seen in some time. wow
In many respects I feel sorry for Tiger. Now before you skewer me let me explain.
Many of us have run into parents that feel that their kid is the next superstar pro player and as a result they drive their kids to succeed in sometimes unhealthy ways. Heck, some of us may be one of 'those' parents sometimes. While supporting a kids desire to excell is healthy there are some parents that take it to the extreme. These are the ones that put constant pressure on their kids from a very young age to outperform their peers and if they don't they get read the riot act.
Tiger's dad appeared to be one of those parents. Tiger was a talent at an early age but the level of work that the kid went through from the age of four was amazing. That kind of singular focus from such an early age had to have a negative impact on his development. I remember seeing him on 'That's Incredible' back in the early 80s, he was hitting balls at six years old that I can't do now at 44. I just don't see him being socialized properly in such a background.
His dad controlled almost every aspect of his life from an early age until his death. It seems like Tiger didn't have these problems until the elder Woods passed away. It seems he reverted to that teenage mentality that many of us outgrew long ago. The only difference is that he was rich, famous and very popular. His drop in his game seems to mirror the loss of his dad as well. He really seems rudderless to me. Guys without a rudder tend to drift into the rocks and that is what he did.
I guess you can call what happened to Tiger a wake up call to parents everywhere. Tiger is rich, famous but I honestly don't think he is happy or even all that well adjusted. Parents should note that if you drive your kids toward one thing and smother them too much they can't turn into well rounded human beings. Tiger to me is a sad case of a father devoting his life to one thing at the expense of his son's well being.
Many of us have run into parents that feel that their kid is the next superstar pro player and as a result they drive their kids to succeed in sometimes unhealthy ways. Heck, some of us may be one of 'those' parents sometimes. While supporting a kids desire to excell is healthy there are some parents that take it to the extreme. These are the ones that put constant pressure on their kids from a very young age to outperform their peers and if they don't they get read the riot act.
Tiger's dad appeared to be one of those parents. Tiger was a talent at an early age but the level of work that the kid went through from the age of four was amazing. That kind of singular focus from such an early age had to have a negative impact on his development. I remember seeing him on 'That's Incredible' back in the early 80s, he was hitting balls at six years old that I can't do now at 44. I just don't see him being socialized properly in such a background.
His dad controlled almost every aspect of his life from an early age until his death. It seems like Tiger didn't have these problems until the elder Woods passed away. It seems he reverted to that teenage mentality that many of us outgrew long ago. The only difference is that he was rich, famous and very popular. His drop in his game seems to mirror the loss of his dad as well. He really seems rudderless to me. Guys without a rudder tend to drift into the rocks and that is what he did.
I guess you can call what happened to Tiger a wake up call to parents everywhere. Tiger is rich, famous but I honestly don't think he is happy or even all that well adjusted. Parents should note that if you drive your kids toward one thing and smother them too much they can't turn into well rounded human beings. Tiger to me is a sad case of a father devoting his life to one thing at the expense of his son's well being.
You could very well have a very valid point. We don't have to look far to see this phenomenon happening all the time. Look at child TV stars. Or young Pop stars.
But I also can't help but wonder if they feel a sense of entitlement. Just read this article about Allen Iverson.
Allen Iverson's Tirade
But I also can't help but wonder if they feel a sense of entitlement. Just read this article about Allen Iverson.
Allen Iverson's Tirade
quote:Originally posted by Wklink:
In many respects I feel sorry for Tiger. Now before you skewer me let me explain.
Many of us have run into parents that feel that their kid is the next superstar pro player and as a result they drive their kids to succeed in sometimes unhealthy ways. Heck, some of us may be one of 'those' parents sometimes. While supporting a kids desire to excell is healthy there are some parents that take it to the extreme. These are the ones that put constant pressure on their kids from a very young age to outperform their peers and if they don't they get read the riot act.
Tiger's dad appeared to be one of those parents. Tiger was a talent at an early age but the level of work that the kid went through from the age of four was amazing. That kind of singular focus from such an early age had to have a negative impact on his development. I remember seeing him on 'That's Incredible' back in the early 80s, he was hitting balls at six years old that I can't do now at 44. I just don't see him being socialized properly in such a background.
His dad controlled almost every aspect of his life from an early age until his death. It seems like Tiger didn't have these problems until the elder Woods passed away. It seems he reverted to that teenage mentality that many of us outgrew long ago. The only difference is that he was rich, famous and very popular. His drop in his game seems to mirror the loss of his dad as well. He really seems rudderless to me. Guys without a rudder tend to drift into the rocks and that is what he did.
I guess you can call what happened to Tiger a wake up call to parents everywhere. Tiger is rich, famous but I honestly don't think he is happy or even all that well adjusted. Parents should note that if you drive your kids toward one thing and smother them too much they can't turn into well rounded human beings. Tiger to me is a sad case of a father devoting his life to one thing at the expense of his son's well being.
I think yor perception is very true.
Oh how we as parents marvel at sport phenoms, but unfortunely, most are not happy individuals.
Tiger lost his competitive edge ever since his wife went postal and wrapped that iron around his head. He don't scare the new generation of young golfers. Beating Nicklaus' record looks like a long shot now.
quote:Originally posted by zombywoof:
Tiger lost his competitive edge ever since his wife went postal and wrapped that iron around his head. He don't scare the new generation of young golfers. Beating Nicklaus' record looks like a long shot now.
I might have waited until the last putt dropped before burying him. He's
Tiger is on the prowl. He eagles here and the crowd will go nuts.
The eagle has landed.
The 3 putt bogey just landed too.
Tiger looks very ordinary out there..Definitely lost his mojo.
He is very ordinary now...he knows it and so do his competitors. Shows you just how critical the mental game is in golf.
The back 9 is where Tiger used to take charge. However, it does look like MacElroy is starting to feel the heat and is starting to choke.
Golf is definitely a test of one's mental makeup.
Golf is definitely a test of one's mental makeup.
You can tell just watching Tiger's body language he doesn't believe he can do it...and is just beaten down by his missed puts. MacElroy is all over the course now. If he makes it in on top it will be a miracle.
MacElroy playing army golf....left right left right..
Unbelievable leaderboard this late...7/8 guys with a great shot at winning. Feel bad for MacElroy...kid is self distructing.
McIroy started choking on the 1st hole.
quote:Originally posted by Dad04:
McIroy started choking on the 1st hole.
Good point.
McIlroy is 6 over par today on holes 10/11/12.
quote:Originally posted by Tx-Husker:
McIlroy is 6 over par today on holes 10/11/12.
McIlroy's implosion today reminds of Dustin Johnson's implosion about a year ago when he had the big league heading into the final round of the US Open.
Yep, Johnson's and Norman's at the Masters. Norman's was about 2 hours of unraveling...a slow motion train wreck.
My dad was fond of saying: "I hate this f#%*$&g game, and I can't wait to play tomorrow!"