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I don't know about normal, but it's all too common, and the kid's dad needs to seek a meeting with the coach about it.
Our former coach did that to my son his sophomore year. We were fortunate to get a new coach who put a stop to it the next year. But you can't sit back and hope you dodge all the bullets.
Surely there is someone on that team who can get 3 outs without giving up 8 runs?
Our former coach did that to my son his sophomore year. We were fortunate to get a new coach who put a stop to it the next year. But you can't sit back and hope you dodge all the bullets.
Surely there is someone on that team who can get 3 outs without giving up 8 runs?
It is pretty easy to sit back and blast the Coach, when you know nothing about the situation. This pitcher did not throw 40 pitches vs Din. You received some false info. He threw basically what constituted a bullpen session vs Din. Against Matoaca, he was under 100 coming into the 7th. It was discussed among the coaches and the pitcher and the pitcher wanted to finish a fabulous game off. He wasn't sent back out there with a complete disregard for his arm. You have no right to comment on and try to make a coach seem like he doesn't care about his kids. It is always a tough decision at the end of game what to do with a pitcher who is nearing the end of his rope. Sometimes you defer to the kid, sometimes your staff is weak, sometimes you have a three/four game week and the staff is thin. You also have to consider what pitches a certain guy throw. If he is a FB/CH guy, he can throw more overall pitches in a game than a guy who mainly relies on Curve/Cutter. The pitcher we are discussing threw many more FB and CH than curves last night. The kid also is not pitching again until next Friday. And prior to the Din. game, he had not pitched for 5-6 days. Please know all the facts before you start throwing around accusations and calling people insane....
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It is easy to sit back and blast another poster too!
As far as the exact details/stats of Bill Cullen's pitching I don't know. What I do know that if it was left up to him to continue he would pitch 500 pitches if that is what it takes. You won't meet a kid with a bigger heart or more desire to compete. I wish him the best. 3up
It is easy to sit back and blast another poster too!
As far as the exact details/stats of Bill Cullen's pitching I don't know. What I do know that if it was left up to him to continue he would pitch 500 pitches if that is what it takes. You won't meet a kid with a bigger heart or more desire to compete. I wish him the best. 3up
I didn't blast him as a person. He blasted TD's coach and I said my peace. As for what you said about Cullen, I couldn't agree more. He's a gamer
Fact: No pitcher has had arm problems at Dale the last two years
Fact: Stoots doesn't pitch his Soph. much because he likes to rely on his Seniors on the mound, not because of pitch counts
If you don't think certain pitchers can throw more pitches than others, then you don't know squat about pitching. The true stress pitches on arms are curves, sliders, cutters
Cullen's Dad was not mad or upset. He was just a little concerned. So stop saying he was angry or flipping out
Would you have said any of this, if Matoaca had not been whipped all over the field? Bill is fine, his arm is okay, stop trying to start stuff. This is not CBC, kids go deep into games sometimes. There was no malice in Bill going the distance. The coach wasn't trying to ruin the kids future. He and his Dad are okay with it
Fact: Stoots doesn't pitch his Soph. much because he likes to rely on his Seniors on the mound, not because of pitch counts
If you don't think certain pitchers can throw more pitches than others, then you don't know squat about pitching. The true stress pitches on arms are curves, sliders, cutters
Cullen's Dad was not mad or upset. He was just a little concerned. So stop saying he was angry or flipping out
Would you have said any of this, if Matoaca had not been whipped all over the field? Bill is fine, his arm is okay, stop trying to start stuff. This is not CBC, kids go deep into games sometimes. There was no malice in Bill going the distance. The coach wasn't trying to ruin the kids future. He and his Dad are okay with it
LOL...that inexperienced coach has done pretty well. Dale doesn't have the luxury of a deep pitching staff and had played Din and CH back to back. The projected closer for the team broke his leg last month and is out for the year. Several times this year, teams in our region have come back from similar deficits. No game is ever over, especially considering the way Matoaca had been hitting the ball prior to Friday night. The coaches believed that Bill had one more inning in him and he did. Prior to this week, Bill last pitched on 3/24. Nobody is throwing his arm off. End of story
If the dad wasn't mad, he should've been.
I've heard all sorts of lame excuses for overpitching a kid and you have trotted out a few of them here, but they are still lame excuses for putting a kid's future at risk -- for one high school game, a regular season game at that, and one that wasn't even close.
It's great that you like the coach enough to defend him. Do you like him enough to talk to him and help him learn to do better?
I've heard all sorts of lame excuses for overpitching a kid and you have trotted out a few of them here, but they are still lame excuses for putting a kid's future at risk -- for one high school game, a regular season game at that, and one that wasn't even close.
It's great that you like the coach enough to defend him. Do you like him enough to talk to him and help him learn to do better?