Max velo for size and weight

How long as he been at this velocity? Have you seen progression from yr to yr? 

Has he tried a velocity program? Does he work w pitching coach?  

Hard to give advice when we know so little about his background.

Start here:

 

ericcressey.com

drivelinebaseball.com

Jeagersports.com

theathleticpitcher.com

Has shown improvement from year to year slowed down last 9 months. Plays for 1 of the top HS programs in SE .Pitching coach is a current pro scout who seems to know his stuff and many people.Back from Ft Myers where 50% of the pitchers were hitting 90 plus perfect game nationals.Some of these kids were under sized.Have had offers from D1 and other schools but not the right one.Chipola ,Spartinberg Methodist are my top choices. Really need to pick it up. What velo programs do you suggest

Just because one hits 90+ doesn't mean you will be drafted out of HS or anytime thereafter. The more players that hit 90 the more one has to have something other than a 90 FB.  What other pitches do you throw and what is the velocity drop? You need to have one or two other really good pitches plus a really good FB, and that may get you a pick, but not in a place where you might like it.

 

Besides developing a faster FB, you need to concentrate on trying to get into a better academic situation.  The more options you have the more you are worth to someone.

If you are working with a pro scout, why do you need a program to develop your FB?

 

Sounds like you need a lot of work on your lower half and core, he should be suggesting that and helping you to develop your core and lower body.

 

Don't rush mother nature. It may be more beneficial to go to a D1 program with a good pitching coach and mature.

Thanks for your imput,other pitches slider described as adv mlb,vulcan change 10-12 curve 10. Currently carries a 3.3 gpa. Pitching coach says hes on track to hit 90s by East Coast thats 1 month did change arm slot month ago.Everything is measured velo,pop time, bat speed, 60 ect.Just feel the need to pick it up.will start with a per trainer in aug.The HS lifts swims and has a group come in and work for 8 wks in fall.Are considering MSU .Got to pick it up.

Who is posting....parent or player?

Parent

Well not sure who is posting but as a plauer going into tjeir senior year it should be about what he wants.
You are along for the ridem

You keep posting "got to pick it up" This has to be driven by him not you. You can help point him in the right direction but you can not force anything. Velocity increases happen over a LONG period of time with natural growth and development being one of the biggest factors IMO. The rest has to be a phased development program of lifting, particularly lower body, as well as a throwing program. There is no magic bullet that is going to increase his velo by "just picking it up"

 

The websites I posted have all of the information anyone would need, if he has a "professional pitching coach" then he should understand this. Just a word of warning because he played pro ball does not make him an expert, there are more "professional pitching coaches" around that you can shake a stick at and while some are good many are not.  Erick Cressey has state of the art lifting programs and Kyle Boddy is rapidly becoming one of the top guys in his field on pitcher development. Ron Wolforth needs no introduction.

 

I am not sure what else you are going to find here other than maybe some additional sources in your area. It sounds to me that you have unrealistic expectations and to be placing them on your son is a big mistake IMO. 

 

I might be wrong but this is just an impression I am getting from this thread. 

 

I agree.

Bad spelling from phone. Sorry.

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My spelling is good or about who you are?

1515: Help me understand. In your OP you said:

 

"I feel I need to get more velo that seems to be what the scouts are looking for. As 99% of the players out there my goal is to be drafted."

 

Then you say you're a parent.

 

I'm scratching my head. Who's pitching and wanting to get drafted? If you're a young player, say so. It's cool.

Why do you feel there is a maximum velocity for size and weight?  At my son's pro game last night the hardest throwers were both tall and short.

 

The softest throwers were both tall and short.

 

Great you've got size, but don't correlate your size to abiltity.  

My 2015 son is 5-11, 170lbs and throws 89-92, touches 93 along with a filthy 12-6 curveball at 79-82. Weightroom, weightroom , weightroom.

his size is a plus for pro scouts if he has the tools. 93 is the new 90, just watch the velo's at Jupiter.  My son was in your sons shoes last year going into Sr year, 87-90 and was stressing because of the draft.  He had filled out a couple of questionnaires only at that point and had very limited scout interaction.  He finally said, "I just want to enjoy my Sr. Year and not be so stressed, if it happens it happens, if not I will make it out of college! I'm through worrying"' he worked hard over the winter then touched 91-93 as his high in every game that spring.  Saw more scouts as his season went on and was eventually drafted.  Moral, just try to control what you control and enjoy Sr. Year, it goes by really fast.  Now I will say Dad was more stressed than son.  

Let's not assume just because he's 6'5 he's going to hit mid 90's plus. 

What does 87-89 mean?  Is that what he has hit or is that where he pitches mostly? 

Agree w others about why he would need new program. I would ? Pitching coach if he truly said kid WILL hit 90 plus  by a certain time.  I've seen kids your sons size who never went past 87.  If things have slowed down in last nine months could be for several reasons.  How much pitching have you/son done?  May need to take break, then get back to work.

If you like certain schools get to their camps and be seen.they will love your size and can tell you what you have.

yes, many kids want to get drafted, but playing in college before that happens can be best for most of them. 

Only weight room with qualified instructor. Kid here decided to go it on his own at home and messed up his back. 

IMO having three pitches is better. lincecum is not buff and there are many thinner successful pitchers out there. 

+1 playball2011 he worked out with a D1 pitcher on "pitcher specific" exercises/drills and that included long toss twice a week.

 

I've heard many D1 coaches talk about Jaeger bands and program, we havent participated in that but suspect it could offer gains for your son as BOF mentioned.

I suggest you add https://armorypitching.com/ to your research for velo.   I see that you are from GA.  Randy Sullivan is friend, former college catcher & academic all-American (Citadel).  Owns a rehab business and a pitching academy near Tampa FL. I don't want to get long winded here.  Just check it out.  90 something pitchers over 90mph.  Pitchers solving pain issues.  It all starts with a pitcher assessment (physical and video).  He txt'd me a week or so ago.  He's out of 90mph black shirts in size medium. Has plenty of XL though.  So, it's not all about the size. 

 

Here is a shameless plug.  He's hosting a webinar tonight at "Arm Care Summit" with Ron Wolforth, Flint Wallace (Texas Baseball Ranch), Kyle Body (Driveline Baseball), and others top velo coaches.  $30.   The topic is "Lower Body".   Tonight 8/28 at 8pm EST.  Some of the best minds in pitching.  They don't have it all figured out, but they are working on it. https://armorypitching.com/ac3

 

Another shameless plug.  If you can't get to FL and can get to Charlotte NC.  Come see me at http://www.throwharderfaster.com/  I'm not Randy, but I did have a 2015 student hit 89 this July at East Cobb (both with the 17u and 16u groups) and he was 74mph this past summer/fall.  He hadn't played baseball in 3 years.  It took 11 months. I had coaches, dads, and even my son say "you are wasting your time".  He'll never throw 90.  Even some dad said, "I'll bet you $1000 he never hits 90."  Well, I didn't bet, and I"ll never see that money.  But he'll hit 90.  He's sitting 87-88 and was barely 80 this spring. 83-84 by May.  86-87 June.   It took a physical assessment, video analysis, functional strength training. (had to get him out of body building style weight lifting). we started with his arm action, had to address some pain he had, and worked backward up-the-chain, to his lower body. I have to admit.  The jump from mid-80's to 89 wasn't all me.  He learned to control his hips and another coach saw him collapsing his back leg prematurely.  And here is the funny part.  His command got better.  Painfree for months now.  Best part was seeing his dad's face w/him on the mound after having not played since 8th grade. Saddest day of his dad's baseball life was when his son quit baseball after 8th grade.  Dad's not so sad anymore.  Mom's happy too.  The player is excited to pitch and learn and develop.  That's why we coach.   

 

He still needs to learn to pitch, manage himself and the game (Me vs. Me vs. You) But at least he has a chance to chase the dream. 

 

Randy, Ron, Kyle and Flint, Eric and others have scores of stories like that.  I bet they can help.  Best of luck to your son 1515. Sorry this post was so long.

"if you are tall, they expect you to throw harder"

- Brent Strom