Mike Cameron Fails Drug test

RICO


What is your agenda anyway ?

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What is your agenda anyway ?

every post is on drugs = NARC?

BEE

I never knew a NARC who was a "slave to his wife" as he states in his bio

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I never knew a NARC who was a "slave to his wife" as he states in his bio

pssst .. maybe he lied

I don't know anything about Rico, but I do appreciate that he posts about the drug issues in baseball. He posts what is already public knowledge. He and Frank Martin bring these news stories to our attention. I prefer knowing about these players and the drug abuse--whatever kind of drug abuse, whether it is steroids, alcohol, or any other drug that the US or MLB has deemed dangerous. I don't think we should ignore this, or turn our backs to it.

I also think that when the grade schools teach Drug Awareness and Education, and they all do, they should include a meaningful section on steroids. And then follow up in health class in high school. My kids may not ever see heroin or crack cocaine, but they sure can see steroids and their effects in the locker room in high school and college.

The more we know, the more we know.

Thank you, Rico and Frank. We appreciate your effort and concern for the health of the youth of our country.

I agree with you, it's good to post this info.

Frank posts the link, Rico posts the link and comments, which he is entitled. Rico doesn't contribute much but links on player busts and generally some nasty comments which in turn gets nasty responses to his nasty responses.

There is a difference in posting and supplying information and then trying to stir the pot, literally. JMO.

play baseball

Are you aware that there is still a question regarding the results on Cameron and they are awaiting the results of the second sample---many things can cause a test failure and it is not necessarily a player taking something on purpose--power drinks when used in coordination with over the counter drugs or prescribed drugs can cause a failed test

You, sir, can look at RICO and ANDY (FM) as heroes but they are not, at least in my eyes--they just regurgitate what we have already read and they don't know the full facts on the issues--Rico in particular just accuses as he did here

TR--I am a busy mother of four athletes--junior high, senior high, and college. I don't have the time to inspect with a proverbial fine-toothed comb every trade journal, magazine, or newspaper article that relates to all activities of all athletes. My very uneducated and insignificant guess is that there are more people like me (who don't have the time or inclination to do so) than who do. So, no, I have not already read what they have posted. I appreciate that there are people who do have the time to read and post these sorts of articles so that I can be informed within the limited free time that I have.

It's been my understanding that although all of the full facts have not been reported, in most cases, the full facts do not negate what has been already reported. If the case involving Cameron does prove that he is "innocent" as opposed to "not guilty", then I expect that Rico, Frank Martin, or you will post the latest news. As I have always told my children--if you do anything that gives even the slightest impression that you are guilty, then you are guilty. I learned that from the good Sisters of St. Joesph. The point being, if you don't want to be accused of doing something illegal, then don't do anything that may give the impression that you are.

Rico and Frank Martin are not my "heroes" in the true definition of the word. But I do appreciate that they post what they post....I also appreciate many others for posting what they post. We may not want to read it or believe it, but it is important that it is brought out so that more of us can know what is really happening. It's not a bad thing to know about things on the front end, because, as you know, it sometimes takes years and years for cases to wend their way through the court system.

play baseball

When they post "good news" items I will listen to them---they are always on the dark side

TR--There is good news and bad news. Some provide the good news and some provide bad news. I like to be informed by reading the good, the bad, and even the ugly!

Play baseball


To each his own when it comes to these characters

The test failure is his second offense for greenies.

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“After all of the analysis and testing, I can only conclude that a nutritional supplement I was taking was tainted,” he said. “Unfortunately, the actual supplement is gone, and therefore cannot be tested. Without the actual supplement in hand, the rules are clear, and I must accept the suspension.”

-Mike Cameron

I think I'll fold this lame excuse in with;

A) "I must have bumped into a steriod contaminated needle from Tejada."-Raffy Palmeiro

B) "I only got HGH prescibed by a physician." (OOPS, forgot to mention the on-line dentist)-Byrd (brain)

I don't believe for one second a $10 million per year athlete doesn't know exactly what they are ingesting...and why. When you get busted, take your punishment like a man and don't insult the intelligence of the fans that pay you.

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The test failure is his second offense for greenies.

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“After all of the analysis and testing, I can only conclude that a nutritional supplement I was taking was tainted,” he said. “Unfortunately, the actual supplement is gone, and therefore cannot be tested. Without the actual supplement in hand, the rules are clear, and I must accept the suspension.”

-Mike Cameron

I think I'll fold this lame excuse in with;

A) "I must have bumped into a steriod contaminated needle from Tejada."-Raffy Palmeiro

B) "I only got HGH prescibed by a physician." (OOPS, forgot to mention the on-line dentist)-Byrd (brain)

I don't believe for one second a $10 million per year athlete doesn't know exactly what they are ingesting.

Dad04 is correct. Tainted greenies?

As a college player, son had to show every supplement to trainer.
As a pro baseball player, he was given a # (with website) to call regarding banned ingredients. I am not sure if lists are given out anymore just due to so many things (with questionable ingredients) on the market you can and can't injest in competition. You can give them the list of ingredients in a supplement and they will tell you yes or no. It's called personal responsibility.

Actually, anyone can call, my husband and daughter market a supplement that they formulated and got clearance from MLB on all ingredients.

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RICO


What is your agenda anyway ?

Um....to out cheaters who use banned substances? That's not a good idea to you???

And wait until the Mitchell report comes down. It's gonna be UGLY.

It's gonna be a hoot to see how many of your favorite players are on the list.

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BEE

I never knew a NARC who was a "slave to his wife" as he states in his bio

Oh, and all bio's are real.....LMAO!

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Play baseball

To each his own when it comes to these characters

I agree with playbaseball on this subject .

And I agree with your statement above.

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by D04: I don't believe for one second a $10 million per year athlete doesn't know exactly what they are ingesting...

ya may be giving them too much credit as your logic seems to link their salary to their "smarts"

as was recounted recently by a friend of a high profile player who shrewdly worked a deal that netted himself 5% and his agent 95% of his signing bonus

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Originally posted by Rico:
Failed for a banned stimulant. 25 game penalty.

Nice. Another disgraced and cheating MLB player. And was a family man and his kids would hang out in the dugout....******* hypocrite lying cheater.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3088062

I agree with posting information, it's important. The comments are not.
JMO.

RICO
For those of us, unlike you, who live in the REAL not VIRTUAL world, bios do mean something---

As for the Mitchell report what validity will it have since he is affiliated with the RED SOX---just another Selig puppet---what baseball needs is a commissioner who has no ties to team ownership and deals with an iron fist like the NFL or NBA

To out cheaters: that cracks me up --all you do is regurgitate what we read or hear in the media and then you state you opinion---you aint outing anyone--you are regurgitating media info or lack of

You're right TR...and it's done frequently in nature as well!

Since many seabirds fly long distances over the water to find food for their chicks, they carry the food in their intestine and regurgitate to the chick.



The chick of a Black-footed Albatross pecks on the parents bill to induce regurgitation.
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Originally posted by Bee>:

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by D04: I don't believe for one second a $10 million per year athlete doesn't know exactly what they are ingesting...

ya may be giving them too much credit as your logic seems to link their salary to their "smarts"

as was recounted recently by a friend of a high profile player who shrewdly worked a deal that netted himself 5% and his agent 95% of his signing bonus

A valid point. He is in no way typical though. He is an exception to several rules of thumb. Common sense to him is change for a dollar.

I don't think the article came out and said 'amphetamines' but I think we have to assume it was greenies/beans. I bet if we really knew how many MLB players took steroids/hgh over the last 15 years and how many took greenies, the percentage of users would be much higher with greenies. Their use has been generally accepted in MLB for decades.

And I have to assume that guys are trying find other legal "stimulants" to get by, though red bulls and over the counter stuff won't do quite as good a job as greenies would.

Marijuana and amphetimines is what is typically found in tests.
I just read today that a prospect was again tested and failed. Once you fail, you know that you have more tests coming. IMO, that could mean dependency and needs to be treated as such. Overall, they feel continusous testing in milb is helping.
Steroids can be detected, but HGH cannot through a urine test. Those that were steroid users most likely may now be using HGH. JMO.
Education is important, the only solution is educating young players on the serious dangers to your health.

I do beleive it is not the caffeine content in red bull but another ingredient. Caffeine is not a banned substance.

Remember, it may be bad news for Cameron, but it is good news for the guys that are working their tails off to get his spot on the team and in the field. There is good in anything if you squint hard enough.

Mike Cameron was on the local talk radio yesterday, He came out and spoke about what happened. He didn't go into specific details but at least he came out and spoke on it.

You can listen to it here. http://www.mighty1090.com/

go to mid page os site.

by Marty Caswell- Mike Cameron has been an integral part of the San Diego Padres both on and off the field since he was traded by the New York Mets in 2005 and his value in the clubhouse is unquestionable.

But Cameron, who is expected to file for free agency any day, dropped a bombshell on the Scott & BR show today, announcing he has been suspended by MLB for 25 games for testing for a banned substance. Cameron reiterated it was not a steroid, and said the hardest part for him is the hit on his previously unblemished reputation and having to explain this to his family and teammates. But Cameron said it was important to speak to the fans of San Diego. Listen here.

Geoff Blum weighed in on Mike Cameron's suspension. Listen here.

Padres CEO Sandy Alderson released this statement:
"Mike has been a valuable member of the Padres over the last two seasons who has been respected for his contributions on the field, his stature in the clubhouse and his involvement in the San Diego community."

"Accordingly, the Padres are extremely disappointed that Mike has tested positive for a stimulant banned by MLB's drug policy. Nonetheless, the Padres staunchly support that policy and hope that Mike's suspension serves as a reminder that performance-enhancing drugs have no place in professional sports."