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tie game bottem of the seventh with bases loaded and a 3-0 count. next pitch is obviously up out of the strike zone and everybody knew it, but umpire calls strike. runner on third thinking ball four starts walking home, and touches home before the tag is applied. should the umpire have done anything (other than make a lousy call on the pitch)?
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Originally posted by NW Knights07:
tie game bottem of the seventh with bases loaded and a 3-0 count. next pitch is obviously up out of the strike zone and everybody knew it, but umpire calls strike. runner on third thinking ball four starts walking home, and touches home before the tag is applied. should the umpire have done anything (other than make a lousy call on the pitch)?


lets see.....3-0 count........and a marginal pitch is called a strike..(I'll call it marginal, I didnt see it, you can call it lousy)

How many times have you seen that happen....thousands of times?....maybe?...

Now we have 3 balls and 1 strike and a live ball.......and the defensive team does not have the situational awareness to tag a runner walking in from 3rd?......(we arent there to legislate a lack of awareness....)

but in reality, whether or not the call was a ball or a strike doesnt matter at all does it?.........if the umpire had called it a ball the runner would score on the walk.....and the runner scored anyway on the strike call and the lack of awareness on the defensive team.....same team would have won regardless of the call.....the ball/strike call didnt lose the game.....

The defense's lack of situational awareness did.....

What should the umpire do?....the umpire should score the run, roll the balls to the home dugout....and leave..... the home team wins.......

Defensive Coach should blister his team for not being aware of the situation and acting accordingly....they could have tagged the runner out correct?......

Sometimes a team has to blame themselves for losing....
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Originally posted by NW Knights07:
the call was obviously blown to begin with (even the pitcher started walking to the dugout) and everybody just assumed the pitch would be a ball and everything ended up like that in the end. so i have no idea what the coaches were doing, but they were not happy afterward


well you get what you deserve when you assume....all the defense had to do was tag a walking baserunner....its just that simple....its the defenses fault that they lost the game....PERIOD....

the coaches should be mad at themselves, all they had to do was say tag him.......
We had one in 14U softball this weekend: Bases loaded, down by one, one out.

Batter pops up to second, between first and second toward the OF grass. Call of INF goes up (correctly), F4 drops the ball. Runners take off, hitter stops half way to first (she's out and knows it). Everyone (idiot parents) yelling "THROW IT TO FIRST, THROW IT TO FIRST", BR starts running to first (now confused), throw goes there as winning run (from second) scores uncontested.

Another case of "know the situation".

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