NAIA Private Workout

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Originally posted by anon:
My son recently sent a schedule to an NAIA head coach and attached links to his PG and berecruited sites. Assistant coach emails son back states that they will be playing a team close to where we live and if son could meet them for a private workout.

I read the NAIA rules and my interpretation is that this can only take place on campus. Is my interpretation correct?

Also, does this show true interest in my kid?
Finally, can my son face any penalties if he attends this workout?

Thank you everyone!

I am not sure if it has to be done on campus..and yes it does show interest in your kid.let the coach decide the time and place..????

I think it shows interest. For the purposes of a tryout, campus can also mean wherever the team regularly practices or plays. But assuming this is an away game, a tryout would be contrary to the rule II-C.

Note that the rule is against "conducting" a tryout. Of course your son won't conduct a tryout; the coach will be doing that. It is actually an overstatement to say the rule is against anything. It simply describes how tryouts are permitted but doesn't explicitly forbid tryouts under other circumstances.

Furthermore, the rules refer to three major principles to guide the NAIA's attitude to tryouts, and the third is "The control of tryouts consistent with making the intercollegiate program an integral part of the total program without legislating
against the student." So it seems to me that the coach will be acting roughly in accordance with the three principles, although clearly contrary to the Casebook examples.

Regardless, your son won't be breaking any rule and his eligibility won't be affected. I think that generally when an illegal activity is undertaken in concert with a coach or official of the college, the responsibility will be deemed to be with the college and not the player.

Thanks to both of you. Assuming it doesn't conflict with his HS practice, he will go.

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Originally posted by anon:
Thanks to both of you. Assuming it doesn't conflict with his HS practice, he will go.

I would give alot of thought into having him go even if it does conflict with HS practice. Explain the situation to the HS coach and go. Your son earned that opportunity, don't let it slip by for a HS practice.

Yes, this is difficult. If it is a day long practice, perhaps son can go late. He will speak to his coach and see. But, his coach is not the most reasonable man in the world.

"He will speak to his coach and see. But, his coach is not the most reasonable man in the world."

If he gets upset because one of his players missed a practice to workout for a college coach he is in the wrong business.

Agree 100% with dazed! Go to the workout! You control your own destiny, this is a conflict with a practice, not a game and your son will be doing baseball while missing practice, not on a date with his girlfriend. Your coach should hope his players receive opportunities like these.

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Originally posted by anon:
Thanks to both of you. Assuming it doesn't conflict with his HS practice, he will go.

My opinion..you ask the college recruiter if there is a good time for him to try out AFTER his high school practice as your son hates to miss practice unless he's sick..then shut up and see hwat he says..100 bucks says he accomodates your schedule.

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let the coach decide the time and place..????

Wogdoggy your advise above in this thread was to let the coach decide the time and place. Your advise now is to ask the coach to change the time and date he picked for the player. Your correct, he might accomodate the player or he might not. The might not is the risky part. However keep in mind in the original post the reason the coach picked that date, time and place was because it seemed convenient for the coach.

Would you not just go to the HS Coach and explain the situation? If the coach knows it for baseball and giving him the opportunity to receive a scholarship I think he would welcome the opportunity for the player. I am sure he would rather it not be a reoccuring habit and seeing as if it is not breaking any rules or not interfering with anything other than just one practice I think he would rather be informed. At least if you ask and he says he would rather you not miss you then know what route you need to take.
Our HS coach wants to be informed of any letters, opportunities, etc... He follows up on all of that and gives us any feedback.

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Originally posted by shortnquick:

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let the coach decide the time and place..????

Wogdoggy your advise above in this thread was to let the coach decide the time and place. Your advise now is to ask the coach to change the time and date he picked for the player. Your correct, he might accomodate the player or he might not. The might not is the risky part. However keep in mind in the original post the reason the coach picked that date, time and place was because it seemed convenient for the coach.

now if you read the thread ..I later found out the HIGH SCHOOl coach is NOT a reasonable man..I Prefer the first option..now you tell me is it worth jacking the high school coach and having the possiblity of him being pee owed at his kid the rest of the year?i'M SURE THERE IS ENOUGH TIME IN THE WEEK TO DO THIS WITHOUT ROCKING EITHER BOAT..

IMHO, any coach worth a salt would not only encourage the kid to go but might even consider going himself or have a an asst coach go. Seems like a good op for the coach to build some contacts.

My son's HS has it in their athletic handbook of rules that if a player misses the practice of a school sport to participate in any non-school event that player will be suspended one game. A second missed practice will result in termination from the team.

If a player misses a game under the same circumstances he will be suspended for 3 games, and of course, a second offense would mean termination.

Our ladys s****r team lost a nationally ranked and highly recruited goalie a few years back because of this rule. She chose to miss the last game of the season to attend a college showcase. They had locked up the conference championship and the game meant nothing. They suspended her for the playoffs and the team was one and done. She decided to graduate early and enroll a year early at D1 school and is now the starting goalie for what should be her senior year. Geniuses...

RonBon, that rule is wrong in so many ways!

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Originally posted by lefthookdad:
IMHO, any coach worth a salt would not only encourage the kid to go but might even consider going himself or have a an asst coach go. Seems like a good op for the coach to build some contacts.

Our high school coach will do everything he can to help his players play college and thats what they SHOULD do..BUT not evry coach is the same.

Well, it has been resolved. Son spoke to coach and he agreed to do it next weekend, when there is no HS practice and at his Campus, thereby avoiding the off campus issue as well. Thanks all. Let's just hope the workout goes well (it's his first)

Good Luck to the boy anon, hope all goes well!