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I think a lot of us can relate to this story. Seems like many of us ran across a kid that was given no real chance, yet somehow made it well beyond expectations against the odds.

The Jeremy Lin story is a really good one. I remember this kid leading Palo Alto HS to a CA state title, right across the street from Stanford...yet they and virtually every other college didn't figure it out. Really smart kid...Harvard...a few NBA tryouts, a season on the bench with the Warriors...a week and a half ago, Kobe Bryant didn't even know who he was (more or less) in an interview, before Jeremy dropped 38 on the Lakers in a Knicks win.

I just think this story relates very well to a lot of posters here whose sons were somehow under-estimated, yet they fought through the very long odds...whether that meant a pro career or getting to play in college or just making and playing on the HS team.

Never give up! Big Grin

Many 'missed' on Jeremy Lin
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Absolutly justbaseball! I just love watching this kid. The Knicks vs Lakers was the first NBA game I've seen from start to finish in a bunch of years. I'm not an NBA, Knicks or Harvard fan but I like watching this kid absolutley take defenses apart. Very exciting, ahd his story is even better considering his background and college experience.
Good idea for a post!

I was thinking the other day that Jeremy Lin kind of reminded me of my son's circumstances. Outside of a few people here and my relatives, no one has ever heard of him and no one gives him any chance. No one except him, that is...

I think the Jeremy Lin story is a great one and I'll bet many hsbbwebster's can relate.
On Mike & Mike this morning it was said that Lin is support for the idea that there are many young players out there in many sports that just need an opportunity and they will shine. Certainly helps many folks "keep the dream alive". I am now checking to see when the Knicks are playing although I have not watched an NBA game in 5 years. It's a great story and I hope it has quite a bit more life.
"the rest rely on opportunity, role, coaching, opponent and hope that comes together with their attitude and work ethic."

Boy, I love this story and love reading that quote.
Attitude and work ethic!!!!
Success occurs when 1,000 hours of preparation meets one moment of opportunity.
What a vivid and wonderful illustration in Jeremy Lin!
Lin is a big story for three reasons:

1) Anything that happens in NY is made to be bigger than it is
2) He's the first Taiwanese to make the NBA
3) He's an Ivy Leaguer

2 and 3 make for a very unique NBA story. There have been a few players to come out of the D-League and have an immediate impact. But if it's a black kid from the ACC it's nothing more than a local story.

It will be interesting to see how long the good times last.
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Originally posted by RJM:
Lin is a big story for three reasons:

1) Anything that happens in NY is made to be bigger than it is
2) He's the first Taiwanese to make the NBA
3) He's an Ivy Leaguer

2 and 3 make for a very unique NBA story. There have been a few players to come out of the D-League and have an immediate impact. But if it's a black kid from the ACC it's nothing more than a local story.

It will be interesting to see how long the good times last.


Gosh, RJM, I wonder...do you need to put some "downer" view on this story, too?
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Originally posted by RJM:
Lin is a big story for three reasons:

1) Anything that happens in NY is made to be bigger than it is
2) He's the first Taiwanese to make the NBA
3) He's an Ivy Leaguer

2 and 3 make for a very unique NBA story. There have been a few players to come out of the D-League and have an immediate impact. But if it's a black kid from the ACC it's nothing more than a local story.

It will be interesting to see how long the good times last.


Gosh, RJM, I wonder...do you need to put some "downer" view on this story, too?
I've never been into hype. I'm more into seeing how it plays out.
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I think a lot of us can relate to this story. Seems like many of us ran across a kid that was given no real chance, yet somehow made it well beyond expectations against the odds.


justbaseball started the thread with this comment. The title is "never give up..."
You are the one looking for the "hype" while it seems like others are looking at the story, the tenacious efforts which have gone on with Lin since HS.
There is no "hype" in the journey of Jeremy Lin and your "trashing" the "hype" might belong in some thread, just not this one, in my view.
This is a great story no matter if it's in New York, Boston, Los Angeles, or Memphis. The young man won a high school state championship in Northern California, went on to play four years at Harvard receiving his degree, and went undrafted. He was invited to the Golden State and Houston camp's, and was cut from each team. He recieved an opportunity to play with the Knicks ONLY because of roster injuries, and what does he do? He's led them on a five game winning streak averaging nearly 27 points and 8 assists per game...who cares if he's white, black, hispanic, or asian? The kid is a breath of fresh air and I'm pulling for him all the way.
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I think a lot of us can relate to this story. Seems like many of us ran across a kid that was given no real chance, yet somehow made it well beyond expectations against the odds.


justbaseball started the thread with this comment. The title is "never give up..."
You are the one looking for the "hype" while it seems like others are looking at the story, the tenacious efforts which have gone on with Lin since HS.
There is no "hype" in the journey of Jeremy Lin and your "trashing" the "hype" might belong in some thread, just not this one, in my view.
I don't have to look for the hype. All I have to do is log on, open a paper or turn on the tv.
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Originally posted by bsbl247:
This is a great story no matter if it's in New York, Boston, Los Angeles, or Memphis. The young man won a high school state championship in Northern California, went on to play four years at Harvard receiving his degree, and went undrafted. He was invited to the Golden State and Houston camp's, and was cut from each team. He recieved an opportunity to play with the Knicks ONLY because of roster injuries, and what does he do? He's led them on a five game winning streak averaging nearly 27 points and 8 assists per game...who cares if he's white, black, hispanic, or asian? The kid is a breath of fresh air and I'm pulling for him all the way.

Nice post as well.

One could argue that if Jeremy Lin's career ended tomorrow, that it is still an amazing story. Most would have given up long before now. Most, if given the opportunity that this young man has, would not have capitalized like he has. A very nice story in the short run and from what I've seen of him, the kid indeed looks like he can play. He's tall and has some nice athleticism to go along with obvious intelligence and charisma. He reminds me a little bit of Pete Marovich.
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Lin has made the NBA significant again. He may have saved the NBA. What a player and a great kid. Refreshing to watch him in an interview and all the attention on him and all he does is deflect it off himself on to other players.

That three point shot he made with .05 seconds left in the game tonight was unbelievable. It was his shot and he wanted it.
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I don't follow the NBA too much. But I have been a Knicks fan my entire life...my great uncle (by marriage) was Dave Debusschere. Jeremy Lin has absolutely rocked New York City, and that's saying a lot.

I'm particularly excited to see if he can keep it up...according to the New York Post he's subletting an apartment about a mile away from my house. Not a bad face to see walking around town!

A great story and a great young man. Glad to see him rising to the top in such a fashion.
For those that care about such things as faith, and I do, I find it just great the Jeremy Lin gives a lot of credit to a higher power, and is indeed a Tebow fan. With all of the creeps we've had to endure in professional sports, it's nice to see guys like Tebow and Lin succeed. My faith won't turn my 58 year old body into an NFL quarterback or an NBA point guard, but it makes me an better person at what I am doing..and the same goes for these guys.

Josh Hamilton is the "point guy" I guess for this in professional baseball, and has surely demonstrated that the straight and narrow path isn't easy and that surely nobody is perfect...nor does anyone claim to be.

As a huge sports fan...and I can't much stand the NBA but am fascinated and watching Mr. Lin's games so there's one miracle right there...it's just great to have some folks with character getting the exposure, given how much all of the kids around these games look up to them.
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For those that care about such things as faith, and I do, I find it just great the Jeremy Lin gives a lot of credit to a higher power, and is indeed a Tebow fan. With all of the creeps we've had to endure in professional sports, it's nice to see guys like Tebow and Lin succeed. My faith won't turn my 58 year old body into an NFL quarterback or an NBA point guard, but it makes me an better person at what I am doing..and the same goes for these guys.

Josh Hamilton is the "point guy" I guess for this in professional baseball, and has surely demonstrated that the straight and narrow path isn't easy and that surely nobody is perfect...nor does anyone claim to be.

As a huge sports fan...and I can't much stand the NBA but am fascinated and watching Mr. Lin's games so there's one miracle right there...it's just great to have some folks with character getting the exposure, given how much all of the kids around these games look up to them.

Great post.

I hope Josh Hamilton picks himself back up by the bootstraps and gets back on the wagon. Backslding a little can be corrected. If he is back to binging again, that is a big problem and I hope they are throwing a small army at him to ensure he indeed does not fall back too far. An addict like him can fall right back to where he was very quickly and I am indeed worried about that.
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For those that care about such things as faith, and I do, I find it just great the Jeremy Lin gives a lot of credit to a higher power...


Thought you might enjoy this article that a friend forwarded to me this morning. Wink

Jeremy Lin on his faith

Really enjoyed that too.

I saw some comments by David Stern this morning on ESPN and he had praise for the young man and threw in the obligatory "Of course, its only been five games comment" No kidding. For once, I would like to see one of these so-called smart guys call it like they see it. I see talent in Lin and it does not matter how many games it has been. Whether he keeps coming up with game winning shots is beside the point because everyone knows that they can't all go in. The point is Lin can play and I really like his attitude - a real breath of fresh air.
That "it's only five games", bothers me too. Do they think just anyone can score 27 points a game with 8 assists playing point guard in the NBA for five games? And lead a bad team with lots of injuries to 5 straight wins. It might be only five games, but in those five games he has scored more points than anyone ever has in their first five starts. Shaq is #2!

He might not be able to keep up this pace, but it's very obvious that he can play. If he does keep up at this pace, he will be in discussion for MVP.
From Boston.com (by Obnoxious Boston Fan) , the top Ivy League contributons to Pro Sports. I realize the premise is an oxymoron, but it is a list none the less. Keep in mind this is some guys list not mine.

1. Jeremy Lin - Harvard
2. Lou Gehrig - Columbia
3. Chuck Bednarik - Penn
4. Ken Dryden - Cornell
5. Eddie Collins - Columbia
6. Bill Bradley - Princeton
7. Sid Luckman - Columbia
8. Calvin Hill - Yale
9. Ron Darling - Yale
10. Joe Niewendyk - Cornell
11. Ted Donato - Harvard
12. A bunch of GMs, Commissioners, etc....

http://www.boston.com/sports/c...guers_in_pro_sports/
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Still pretty fun!
The more coming out about him and the route, effort, desire and dedication to get to this point, the better the story.
Last week on the radio, Duane Kuiper made the baseball analogy to Mark, "the Bird" Fidrych.
Who was a baseball fan in the mid/late 1970's and does not remember.
Great for baseball like Lin is "good/better" for a game in desperate need of excitement.
First I'll address someone's comment Lin makes the NBA relevant again. NBA play is awful this year. It often looks like high school play due to only ten days of preseason, free agency not taking place until ten days before the season started and the cramped schedule with many back to back nights. I love watching high school ball. But not when it's played by professionals.

I watched the entire Knicks game today. Lin can play. Eventually he's not going to score like he has. The Knicks were missing players and losing. They needed someone to make something happen. They got back Smith and will be gettng back Anthony this week. It will be interesting to see what happens when Anthony returns. When Iverson joined the Nuggets it didn't work well. Anthony didn't like giving up the spotlight.

I can see Lin settling in to being a 15 point 10 assist player. He penetrates well forcing the defense to collapse on him. It creates openings and opportunities for his teammates. His assist to turnover ratio is poor. But the positive side is the turnovers are a result of effort and youthful exuberance. He'll cut down his mistakes with experience. When the defender backs up on him he can hit the jumper. What I didn't do was pay attention to his defense. He had a couple of steals. But that's not all there is to defense.

I don't see the connection between Tebow and Lin. Tebow shoves his religion down your throat. I've seen two Lin interviews. He hasn't mentioned religion even though I've heard he's very religious. Tebow is very fundamentally unsound as a quarterback. Lin has the fundamentals. He only needs to learn his limitations which will come with experience.
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