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It seems Manfred has talked with some owners about that rule suggestion.

Apparently he wants to allow once a game to have a golden at bat where you can give one player who already is in the line up an extra at bat out of turn.



https://www.mlbtraderumors.com...n-a-little-buzz.html



The thought is that you can basically play it like in mlb where you can give the ball to your star to hit the buzzer beater to create a more exiting moment at the end of the game.

Manfred said there are no plans to introduce this  yet and that it is still at the idea stage, so probably making it publicly was to test public reaction.

Unsurprisingly there was a lot of negative reaction to that. Proponents say that in nfl and nba the ball also is in the hand  Patrick mahomes or Steph curry and not in some random bench players hand and that a baseball game ending with the slappy #8 hitter grounding out to end the game is a bit lame but traditional baseball fans see that as a mockery of the game.

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Please forgive me for this post.  I loved the game as it was as I grew up.  I loved trying to think like the managers of each team.  Do they bunt?  What bunt defense will they use?  Who do we have to pinch-hit?  Who do they have?  Do you let the pitcher hit and bunt to move a runner or pinch hit?   How long does the manager go with this or that pitcher?  Can our starter get into the 8th inning?  What about that double switch? 

I recall going to a baseball game with my mentor.  We talked about all of this as we watched the game.  LaRussa had just joined the Cardinals.  I wanted to know what his thought process was.  Was he really two or three innings ahead with his thought process on how and who to sub? 

That style of game is either dead or dying and I miss it.  When I was a HC, that is exactly what I did.  I kept a book on every team we played and knew exactly how the opposing coach thought.  Once, we were playing a game and the opposing coach was upset that I was stealing his signs.  Heck, I didn't have to steal his signs.  He was as predictable as knowing that the sun was coming up tomorrow.  That was fun.  That was baseball. 

@CoachB25 posted:

Please forgive me for this post.  I loved the game as it was as I grew up.  I loved trying to think like the managers of each team.  Do they bunt?  What bunt defense will they use?  Who do we have to pinch-hit?  Who do they have?  Do you let the pitcher hit and bunt to move a runner or pinch hit?   How long does the manager go with this or that pitcher?  Can our starter get into the 8th inning?  What about that double switch?

I recall going to a baseball game with my mentor.  We talked about all of this as we watched the game.  LaRussa had just joined the Cardinals.  I wanted to know what his thought process was.  Was he really two or three innings ahead with his thought process on how and who to sub?

That style of game is either dead or dying and I miss it.  When I was a HC, that is exactly what I did.  I kept a book on every team we played and knew exactly how the opposing coach thought.  Once, we were playing a game and the opposing coach was upset that I was stealing his signs.  Heck, I didn't have to steal his signs.  He was as predictable as knowing that the sun was coming up tomorrow.  That was fun.  That was baseball.

Thoughts on drafting hr hitters versus hitting for average hitters?

@Dadof3 posted:

Thoughts on drafting hr hitters versus hitting for average hitters?

I am older.  I want that hitter who hits for average and a lot of them.  Sure you can wait around for the big fly from those who hit them.  Instead, some of those who hit for average are going to hit their fair share of big flies as well as get on base and drive in runs by hitting for average.  I know that isn't a popular way of thinking today. 

I know what I know but I know what I know.  Some people know what they know but they don't really know what they know.  You know?  I know what I know BUT I know what I know.  -- That is one of my famous quotes.  Here is what I know.  I participated in just under 800 HS wins.  The teams I coached were almost always in the top two or three teams in BA in the metro area where I live.  We won one heck of a lot with guys that weren't necessarily power hitters.  We hit for average and kept the pressure on the defense and pitcher and had exceptional pitchers on our teams.  Again, this is not the trend today.

Rob Manfred needs to be replaced as MLB commissioner if we want the game to survive. He is an idiot that is acting on behalf of idiot owners. In this case MLB is a metaphor for what has taken place in everyday life over the past 5 years. The absurd has become ordinary and the normal has become unusual. It’s time to reverse that trend the same way that everyday life is normalizing. How about we get back to common sense in baseball too ?!?

I guess he is just getting ideas from the GM of the Savannah Bananas. Why do the owners keep this guy around? I know the answer, but he is terrible for the game.

He is very bad at communicating with Media and I don't like the golden AB rule, but I do like a lot of the rule changes that happened in the last couple years.

Not a fan of the Ghost runner, but pitch clock, the pickoff rule, shift ban and 3 batter minimum for pitchers imo did work out pretty good for the game.

Baseball and basketball have ruined their game at the pro level playing for the big bomb. I rarely watch pro basketball anymore. I only watch the Celtics against the best teams. With teams shooting 40-50% 3s I feel like I’m watching a game of Knockout.

Baseball has done the same thing with the home run. Even middle infielders whiff 100 times per season swinging for the fences.

im watching less and less Red Sox games. I’m more likely to record then fast forward to hitters I want to watch. I did t stsrt watching any World Series games until the 7th inning. I didn’t watch any of the other playoff games.

Baseball bores me to tears at the MLB level unless it’s my once a month at the game live.

The best baseball is college baseball during the post season Bases Loaded broadcast.

@RJM posted:

Baseball and basketball have ruined their game at the pro level playing for the big bomb. I rarely watch pro basketball anymore. I only watch the Celtics against the best teams. With teams shooting 40-50% 3s I feel like I’m watching a game of Knockout.

Baseball has done the same thing with the home run. Even middle infielders whiff 100 times per season swinging for the fences.

im watching less and less Red Sox games. I’m more likely to record then fast forward to hitters I want to watch. I did t stsrt watching any World Series games until the 7th inning. I didn’t watch any of the other playoff games.

Baseball bores me to tears at the MLB level unless it’s my once a month at the game live.

The best baseball is college baseball during the post season Bases Loaded broadcast.

agreed, mlb games bore me, for the most part.   Maybe part of that is because we are near the Pirates and they are about making money versus winning.  But I enjoy college baseball so much more.

Sarcasm from a Facebook post …

MORE IDEAS FOR ROB MANFRED:
- Outfielders wear ice skates.
- Goal horn sounds for extra base hits.
- Players who commit errors are sent to penalty box.
- Players who strike out can attempt a triple Axel to earn hitter another strike.
- Pitchers throw underhand.
- No fielders. Children will man the outfield like the Home Run Derby.
- Hey, fans! You make the lineup! By texting your favorite player’s name to 96643, you’re in control! (Standard text messaging rates apply.)

A few years back I would have classified myself a purist and like @CoachB25 and I very much enjoyed the manager strategy portion of the game. However, times change and I like the anti-shift, the pitch timer, throw over limit and even the tie breaker rule. I like that the games are typically under 3 hours now and that I don't have to watch relief pitchers go through 30 seconds of ritual or ticks for each pitch.

162 games is a marathon and limiting extra innings and the severe wear and tear on the ballplayers during the season is a good thing from my vantage point.

As for the golden at bat suggestion, I think that's a going way too far...

@JucoDad posted:

A few years back I would have classified myself a purist and like @CoachB25 and I very much enjoyed the manager strategy portion of the game. However, times change and I like the anti-shift, the pitch timer, throw over limit and even the tie breaker rule. I like that the games are typically under 3 hours now and that I don't have to watch relief pitchers go through 30 seconds of ritual or ticks for each pitch.



good points

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