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Here are some NH kids who played in the Granite State Showcase League.  The entire New England list at http://showcaseleague.com/alumni/

 

PLAYERCOLLEGEDIVHS
Andy Lalonde St. Bonaventure1Bedford High School
Tyler Barss University of Rhode Island1Goffstown Area High School
Matt Fortin Seton Hall1Nashua North
Kyler McCarthy University of Hartford1Nashua North
Adam Routhier Franklin Pierce University2Goffstown Area High School
Matt Wojciak Franklin Pierce University2Merrimack High School
Jake Welch University of Southern Maine3Londonderry
Jake Cassidy Plymouth State University3Londonderry High School
Taylor Black St. Joseph’s College of Maine3Merrimack High School
Brad Deluca Daniel Webster College3Nashua South High School
Ryan McCarthy Bates College3Timberlane Regional High School

I see the names and the schools, but how many of these kids are going to get good playing time?  I don't no any of these guys, my son is three year older, but the class he was in you don't hear much about when I follow up they are not getting the playing time.  I wonder is that they are big fish in NH an not so big in college?

 

I have learned through my experience that players and parents don't do enough research on the program an not really the best baseball fit.

Wow..strange post.  If you have talent, play at a high level, and have had the right exposure, you will garner interest.  NH kids and colleges actually fared pretty well on the tail end of this years draft.   Originally Posted by Proud Praent:

I see the names and the schools, but how many of these kids are going to get good playing time?  I don't no any of these guys, my son is three year older, but the class he was in you don't hear much about when I follow up they are not getting the playing time.  I wonder is that they are big fish in NH an not so big in college?

 

I have learned through my experience that players and parents don't do enough research on the program an not really the best baseball fit.

re: Proud Parent

 

3 years ago there was Kevin McGowan and Zach Mathieu - I'd say they're doing pretty well as both got drafted yesterday by the Mets! Just looking at the showcase alumni list I see a few other names that I recognize as being on local summer league teams (FCBL), so I think you'd need to be more specific.

 

In college injuries, grades, and reality probably set in for many players, but I wouldn't say NH kids are the "unique" in that regard. There are some NH kids that are and there are some that aren't - that's reality. Competition for spots and play time is difficult. Coaches are paid to put the best players out there. For some, being recruited by a coach and then playing for that coach is like knowing two different people. When you send game tape to a coach, you certain don't send a bloopers reel - that shows up once you're there.

 

As for research - that's something that I will agree with you on - for any school you choose (or that offers a scholly) you have to be know whether you'd be happy there "if" you couldn't play any more.

John,  I agree with your post.  My son played with McGowan last summer on the Muskrats.  It just surprises me that there are not more players from NH in the NECBL, its right there in are front yard, and very good baseball.  Perfect Game has it listed as the #3 collegiate summer league in the country.  I did some research on my own:

 

Futures Summer League, 19 NH players listed on the rosters, PG has it as #17 in the country.

 

New York league has 1 NH player listed, PG has it as #19 in the country.

 

NECBL has 5 NH players listed, PG has it at #3.

 

There are no other NH players listed on rosters in the top 20 ranked collegiate summer baseball leagues.  So were are the NH kids playing, there has to be more than 25 kids?

you are looking up collegiate leagues and the vast majority of them are playing in amateur leagues. the nsbl as well as the cmba. there are also the innercity league and yawkey league in boston and surrounding towns. My sons team has at least 10 nh players on it. The problem I see is that the teams all are forced to carry 25-30 players, my sons team actually has 31. I understand the older they get with jobs and such that there is a need to carry more players, but come on 31.Playing time for everyone is a nightmare for the coaches and only playing 7 innings is rough.College players looking for real steady playing time are hard pressed to find a good fit.

Point well made, there are so many more leagues out there than we have knowledge of.  Finding the right fit is important, also helps if the players if college coaching staff gets involved with placement.  If you want the playing time you got to be better than the rest.  That is easier said than done, there is a lot of talent out there.

 

I guess my point in the thread is that parents and players really need to know what they are getting into when choosing a school.  There is a lot more than meets the eye.  Schools are recruiting a ton of kids, not only high school players but transfers to. 

Coaches are always looking for better players, transfers won't sit an are brought in for a reason.  Could mean a second year player sitting more in second year.  You have to go were you are going to play and are wanted.

Here are a few more NH kids and their destinations updated from the Granite State Showcase Site.  Congrats to them.  There must be more... would love to know!!

Player

          College

Division

          High School

Jon McQuarrie

St. Anselm College

2

Bishop Guertin High School

Andrew Herlihy

St. Anselm College

2

Pinkerton Academy

Dan Quinn

Southern New Hampshire University

2

Manchester Memorial

Adam Bailey

University of Southern Maine

3

Dover High School

Jamie Collins

St. Joseph’s College of Maine

3

Timberlane High School

Drew Ellis

Daniel Webster College

3

Londonderry High School

Jackson Musco

Castleton State College

3

Campbell High School

Dan Morin

Western New England University

3

Salem High School

Jacob Boylan

Norwich University

3

Manchester Memorial

Originally Posted by JohnF:

re: Proud Parent

 

As for research - that's something that I will agree with you on - for any school you choose (or that offers a scholly) you have to be know whether you'd be happy there "if" you couldn't play any more.


I have to agree with this 100%. As our kids take baseball higher and higher to the next level there is more and more chance that they fall from the "cream of the crop." Even for those kids who play 4 years at a D1 or top D2 or D3 school... what is the likelyhood that baseball with be their career after college for any apprciable time? Even those that get drafted, how many actually make a living in the pros?

 

Every young man eyeing college ball should be aiming high, but realizing that their education is probably going to be more than a distant Plan "B"

Originally Posted by Proud Praent:

I see the names and the schools, but how many of these kids are going to get good playing time?  I don't no any of these guys, my son is three year older, but the class he was in you don't hear much about when I follow up they are not getting the playing time.  I wonder is that they are big fish in NH an not so big in college?

 

I have learned through my experience that players and parents don't do enough research on the program an not really the best baseball fit.

The mistake I saw many kids make is choosing the best program that made an offer rather then the best fit. I know kids who went off to major conference programs not understanding, or ignoring these teams recruited ten more just like them. 

 

The dropout rate in D1 baseball is 50%. 50% of D1 players transfer from their original college to play some place else. It isn't always about talent. Sometimes it's about opportunity and fit. Sometimes kids head off to another part of the country that isn't a social fit. 

OK ladies & gentlemen; the word STUDENT comes before the word ATHLETE in STUDENT-ATHLETE.  The kids should first select the best college fit for their educational goals.  If there baseball IQ and skills are uncommon, the MLB scouts will find them for that next level…

My son selected a walk-on offer from a top D-II in a program that he knew would take him at least two campaigns of waiting for his time to see some solid playing time.  He has trained for the past two years (freshman & sophomore) gong from 175lbs to 200lbs in strength weight and he has raised his outfield arm strength to 90mph.

A program fit may mean you will not see playing time right away… You may need to learn how to prepare for “YOUR TIME”.

 

Go Baseball!

 “Stay Balanced In All Things"

 

Ron

RBISports

www.eteamz.com/RBISports

Just an FYI, that after suffering a near career ending injury during his junior/recruiting year in 2012 and deciding last Labor Day he did not want to pursue college ball but focus on his grades, Trinity HS/Manchester kid, Alex Currier walked onto his college baseball team try-outs yesterday, tried out in front of the coaches and made the 2014 Embry-Riddle Eagle Baseball team. This is a championship team in the Sun Belt Division in sunny Daytona Beach, FL.

Originally Posted by Orange Baseball:

Nasty Lefty, 

     Congrats to Alex, you must be very proud of all the work he put forth.  Do you know if he made the team as a pitcher or outfielder?  Either way best of luck!

Thank you Orange.  He made it as an OFer after running a 6.6 in the 60 yard dash and he said he didn't throw too well since he hasn't thrown since the beginning of August ... and they told him they probably wont use him as a pitcher .... but he's still going to workout as one.

Originally Posted by Rvaughn33:

Congrats Nasty. Any word on a new Trinity Coach yet? Not that it matters to you, I was just curious.

Thanks RVaughn and yes ... former THS Varsity Coach Paul Lemire is the new Head Coach.  Paul is a great guy and a great baseball guy.  Lots of kids respond well to him so it will be interesting to watch in 2014 .... I know I'll be there watching and cheering for them.

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