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The pictures show North Central College baseball players taking part in an impromptu baseball game in their underwear, pouring up to six different kinds of alcohol in the mouths of freshmen players and holding a fashion show where the same freshmen are dressed in women's lingerie.

Three former players insist the activities at a team party before the 2005 season were voluntary and for team bonding. NCC Dean of Students Gary Ireland said, however, the pictures "disturb" him.

The photos were forwarded to The Sun from NCAAHazing.com, a group that is attempting to alert the NCAA to the prevalence and dangers of hazing among other issues, after an anonymous source tipped off William Schut, operator of the Web site, about the photos.

The two sets of photos, consisting of 164 pictures, came from senior catcher/outfielder Matt Shuba's Webshots album labeled "Frosh Initiation '05" and "Initiation part II." While the pictures alone appear ****ing, three former Cardinals say it's not as it seems. However, the players drinking in the picture are identified as freshmen during the 2004-2005 school year, a violation of the Illinois minimum drinking age.

Attempts by The Sun to contact Shuba were unsuccessful.

"I would hate to give it a definition (as hazing or initiation) until I find out what's going on. To see pictures of students drinking, doing shots or even having people pour alcohol down other people's mouths, that's disturbing," said Ireland, who added he regularly monitors the Internet for these kinds of photos but hadn't seen these before Tuesday. "What disturbs me is that they ... describe it as an initiation."

Pat Banser, a former pitcher from Lincoln-Way East who left school after 2005 for personal reasons, was one of the freshmen at the party. Although he said he did no drinking, he was shown as one of the participants in the fashion show. He said it was "a good time had by all." He said that a handful of freshmen chose not to take part, and there were no repercussions for their actions.

"If you didn't want to do anything, you didn't have to," Banser said.

Another former player, Naperville North graduate Don Carlsen who graduated in 2005, said "it wasn't hazing or initiation at all.

"It's been going on for a long time, but it's made very clear that it's voluntary."

Yet another former player, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, said, "It's not hazing. It's team bonding, and it's being blown out of proportion. ... It's all voluntary. It's a team bonding thing. There is in no way, shape or form any force used to make anyone do anything."

After a similar party this year, the Cardinals' team captains were disciplined, stripped of their captaincy by the team's coaches. On Tuesday, NCC baseball coach Brian Michalak directed all questions to Ireland, who confirmed that disciplinary action was taken by the team. The players were not thrown off the squad nor punished by NCC.

The pictures come to light at a time when North Central is implementing ways to address such topics as hazing with both their athletes and the general student population. For its freshmen, the NCC athletic department is beginning a 10-week set of lectures from various speakers called the Varsity Course, including one on social responsibility for the student athlete. The college also started a program called the Huddle, where Ireland gives a speech on hazing and initiation.

Ireland said there is no official code of correct on hazing, but the college takes incidents on a "case-by-case basis." Ireland said there is normally a one-on-one meeting with him and hearings on the matter followed by disciplinary action, which can range from sitting out games to expulsion.

"We do take it seriously," Ireland said.
Bill Dwoinen Jr Assistant Coach Melrose Indians Baseball www.melroseindians.com
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I remember "Hell Week" at St. Procopius College (now Illinois Benedictine Univ or Benedictine or ???? What is it this week?)back in the mid '60's.

Lot of fun.

Never forget when Al Korbel (may he rest in peace) was Julius Ceasar for the "Court" held each night. Funniest thing I've ever seen!

All of it was intended to get the Freshman Class to bond with the rest of the student body and leave the "high school Harry" days behind.

I "love" it when I see kids in college with their high school letter jackets on...They don't get it.
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There are better ways to "bond." I wouldn't want my sons on either side....giving it out or taking it, both of which are undesirable behaviors.

What ever happened to rookies and freshman carrying bags, etc.? I'm sure most of this hazing has no long-term effect on the kids but I think anyone should know by now the time has passed for such behavior.
My freshmen year we had to carry all the gear and they shaved our heads before our southern trip...it was all in fun

Is North Central the only school that does this? No...but they got caught. The kid posted the pictures on a website called webshots, a public photo sharing site!

Anytime people see "Forced Liquor down their throat" the worst is going to happen.
I'm not a tuff guy, and I wouldn't condone anyone crappin on or belittling another. I don't condone HS kids drinking, including my SO who I remind every time he goes out with his friends.

I read the story, and looked at the photos, and it brought back good memories from my pledge week at Bradley (not the drinking part, just kids having fun and bonding). There was something about the undies too, but I will spare you all that part.

I would take the kids word for it that it was harmless fun. IMO, I believe that it is difficult to conclude that this was a forced drinking situation. How could it be? Who makes the lineup the upper classmen on the team, or the coaching staff.

I absolutely don't like picking on kids, making hasty conclusions and imposing one's will on others with a heavy hand (I'm not challenging team or university rules here, this is how I feel about the block boss syndrome). It makes you wonder why kids rebel against us, rage against the machine.

These same college kids that were having a blast playing baseball in their undies, and having a drink or two; are the same kids that are old enough to be drafted or enlist in the military, and can be killed in a theatre of war.

Give them a break.

Me personally, I drink about six beers a year, and eat a pizza a day.
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Anytime somebody is having alcohol poured down their throat by another, you have to wonder if this is really in everybody's best interest. Other than the freshmen carrying the equipment, hazing is outdated and irresponsible. It is all OK until something happens. It reminds me of the stoplight in front of my office that we kept telling people was needed and nothing happened until somebody died, then what do you know, we got our stoplight.

Although some things do appear worse than they seem, you have to be concerned. Personally, my son and I have had a lot of conversations regarding hazing and I am convinced that he would do whatever he could to prevent it from happening at his school.

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