Looks like 1st base umpire is trying to hide the plate after a HR?
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You made the perfect thread title to describe that video.
No words... I hope he was banned from further officiating after that.
That's just down the road from me. I don't know which game this was but Texas High lost the 3rd game of a 3 game playoff against Whitehouse this past weekend with a 7-1 lead going into the 7th inning.
I talked with one of the parents of a player on that team and the Texas High coach thought his closer (who is normally lights out) could get himself out of a hole in the 7th inning but left him in too long.
This looks pretty bad on the umpire.
Haha... that's one of those clips... without knowing the story, you could have a lot of fun with coming up with a thousand different "the rest of the story" 's.
The thing I notice in that video is that no one seems upset about it. Not the batter-runner, not his teammates, not his coaches.
Makes me wonder if this was a friendly thing, maybe the umpire knows the kid well, or is a known "class clown" type.
Could be bad news, but there are signs here that maybe we shouldn't jump to the worst conclusion.
lionbaseball posted:That's just down the road from me. I don't know which game this was but Texas High lost the 3rd game of a 3 game playoff against Whitehouse this past weekend with a 7-1 lead going into the 7th inning.
I talked with one of the parents of a player on that team and the Texas High coach thought his closer (who is normally lights out) could get himself out of a hole in the 7th inning but left him in too long.
This looks pretty bad on the umpire.
I saw on another forum that the guy in the vid was behind the plate during game three and the closer was grooving the ball and getting no called strikes.
What possible reason would the first base umpire have to come down home? Why was the home plate umpire still near 3rd base after it was determined to be a home run? Would have liked to see the actual "out" call on the video. That is one strange video...
d8 posted:lionbaseball posted:That's just down the road from me. I don't know which game this was but Texas High lost the 3rd game of a 3 game playoff against Whitehouse this past weekend with a 7-1 lead going into the 7th inning.
I talked with one of the parents of a player on that team and the Texas High coach thought his closer (who is normally lights out) could get himself out of a hole in the 7th inning but left him in too long.
This looks pretty bad on the umpire.
I saw on another forum that the guy in the vid was behind the plate during game three and the closer was grooving the ball and getting no called strikes.
That would make more sense because their closer supposedly throws low 90's and is pretty reliable. One of the parents said the starter was ready to pitch again in the 7th but the coach decided to go with the reliable closer.
My son had issues with an erratic strike zone against a good team this past weekend in the playoffs.
FriarFred posted:What possible reason would the first base umpire have to come down home? Why was the home plate umpire still near 3rd base after it was determined to be a home run? Would have liked to see the actual "out" call on the video. That is one strange video...
Depending on the number of umpires being used and the specific mechanics set, a "rotation" is proper in this instance.
There's a tradition that when U1 comes down to home on a rotation, he covers home plate with dirt (ostensibly to prove to PU that he made it there, but in reality to make him do a little work--a little hazing, if you will.) What this guy didn't think of is that we do it after the whole play is over.
Midlo Dad posted:The thing I notice in that video is that no one seems upset about it. Not the batter-runner, not his teammates, not his coaches.
Makes me wonder if this was a friendly thing, maybe the umpire knows the kid well, or is a known "class clown" type.
Could be bad news, but there are signs here that maybe we shouldn't jump to the worst conclusion.
Interesting to see how easy it is for a rush to judgment, huh???
Truman posted:Midlo Dad posted:The thing I notice in that video is that no one seems upset about it. Not the batter-runner, not his teammates, not his coaches.
Makes me wonder if this was a friendly thing, maybe the umpire knows the kid well, or is a known "class clown" type.
Could be bad news, but there are signs here that maybe we shouldn't jump to the worst conclusion.
Interesting to see how easy it is for a rush to judgment, huh???
This umpire who covered home plate in the 2nd game, which Texas High lost, also was behind the plate in the 3rd game that, according quite a few people who attended the game, basically screwed the Texas High closer in the 7th inning. 7 run lead, no errors from Texas High, and they lose the lead from a pitcher who only walked 2 kids all year?
It must be serious enough for the Texas Assoc. of Sports officials to start and investigation.
http://etsn.fm/texas-associati...ball-playoff-series/
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Matt13 posted:<eyeroll>
Let me help you with that. 
Why are we eyerolling that? Covering the plate entirely is not ok. I don't care if it's "umpire hazing" or not. Definitely could be completely innocuous, but someone should at least ask to find out.
ironhorse posted:Why are we eyerolling that? Covering the plate entirely is not ok. I don't care if it's "umpire hazing" or not. Definitely could be completely innocuous, but someone should at least ask to find out.
Because the whole purpose of the investigation is to placate whiny parents. This is a mountain out of a molehill.
I also eyerolled the implied accusation about this umpire squeezing a pitcher.
I don't think so. No one (credible) I've heard is saying this was a reason for losing the series, but this occurrence was verrrrry odd. I'm not calling for the guy's head, but I do think he should have to explain why he did what he did. If it's the prank you're talking about, then he is simply an idiot, and that's that.
But in 12 years of doing this, I've never seen an ump completely cover up home plate. So I would at least want to hear what the heck his reason was. I think he should at least have to answer that question.
ironhorse posted:If it's the prank you're talking about, then he is simply an idiot, and that's that.
That's pretty much what I'm getting at.
ironhorse posted:But in 12 years of doing this, I've never seen an ump completely cover up home plate. So I would at least want to hear what the heck his reason was. I think he should at least have to answer that question.
I'm assuming that you mostly see two-man crews. This rotation is rare in two-man, and even more rare that U1 would get to the plate. In two-man, U1 would rotate down after going out on a trouble ball--so he has to make it from the outfield to home. In three-man, this rotation is much more prevalent.
Matt13 posted:I'm assuming that you mostly see two-man crews. This rotation is rare in two-man, and even more rare that U1 would get to the plate. In two-man, U1 would rotate down after going out on a trouble ball--so he has to make it from the outfield to home. In three-man, this rotation is much more prevalent.
ironhorse said "cover up". 
Matt13 posted:ironhorse posted:Why are we eyerolling that? Covering the plate entirely is not ok. I don't care if it's "umpire hazing" or not. Definitely could be completely innocuous, but someone should at least ask to find out.
Because the whole purpose of the investigation is to placate whiny parents. This is a mountain out of a molehill.
I also eyerolled the implied accusation about this umpire squeezing a pitcher.
What shall we do to placate whiny umpires?
I found this post from a local forum about the 3rd game that Texas High lost.
I was at the 3rd game just to watch as we were beat by Pleasant Grove 3-2 Friday . I have no clue about the dirt kicking incident and but the umps strike zone was a little different but most are and he was consistent on giving same pitches to both teams. I thought coach should have left the starter in especially since he had them off balance all game and was still getting ground outs and popups but im sure he had his reasons to change. The reliever who came in only threw one strike in warmups and was off the entire inning . He consistently threw balls low and away after hitting the first or second batter . The pitcher just never consistently found the strike zone and when he did they put them in play. The ump really did not have alot of close calls because he was so far off. Thats just my veiw as I was directly behind home plate . It was a great game to watch as both teams had lots of good ballplayer and played their tails off.
2020dad posted:Matt13 posted:Because the whole purpose of the investigation is to placate whiny parents. This is a mountain out of a molehill.
I also eyerolled the implied accusation about this umpire squeezing a pitcher.
What shall we do to placate whiny umpires?
I think I need to whine more. I can't think of a single time in my entire life that anyone tried to placate me.