When committing to a school, what is a reasonable expectation regarding your son's position and the number of other recruits that play the same position? I know my son will have to compete and work his butt off just to see the field at all no matter what...but how many of each position is considered "normal" when looking at the list of commits?
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Really depends on the school, but for the most part half the class will be P's and then a bunch of ss and cf with a couple C's. To determine "normal", I'd look at the past few classes and average them out.
In case you're wondering where to look for current and past commitments:
Your roster depends on the coaches philosophy, the number of games for the week, conference or whether they often make the post season, injuries, etc.
Most of those type of programs will always have more pitchers. D2 programs may have more offense than defense or 2 way guys that D1 programs.
Looking at past rosters can give you a good idea of how they structure each roster year to year.
However, as conferences change, so will rosters.
Thank you all for the info! I’ve seen the pg lists and I’ve poked around for transfer news. Just overthinking and over analyzing coaching decisions, I guess. Meeting with (his) #1 choice this weekend and I’m hoping the decision will be clear after that.
PG pages are based on data entered by the player. So a player who creates the page as a SS/RHP might be recruited as a pitcher but be listed as a SS, for example. Just as a note.
Position doesn’t matter unless a player is hell bent on one position. There are four kinds of players … pitchers, catchers, middle of the field players, corner field mashers. Middle of the field players can play seven positions. Corner mashers typically play, first, third and left. Hit and you play somewhere.
One year Vanderbilt moved a recruited center fielder to catcher and played recruited catchers at first, left and DH. The centerfielder switched to catcher was so good he was drafted. So were the other three. Two as catchers. One as a left fielder.
Add: Buster Posey was a shortstop at FSU. An All SEC shortstop transferred in. FSU needed a catcher. Posey volunteered. The rest is history.
@anotherparent posted:PG pages are based on data entered by the player. So a player who creates the page as a SS/RHP might be recruited as a pitcher but be listed as a SS, for example. Just as a note.
I'll second this. Especially for kids recruited late in the cycle. Most teams can always find room for another pitcher and sometimes a catcher.
During our Area Code games in 2000, the pro scouts placed a SS in Center field for the 5 games with 400 pro scouts evaluating.
He told his teammates that he would look "bad" on purpose to be placed again as a SS.
His name B,J, who would never played SS again in the MLB.He played CF.
"Ask the pro scouts" they have the experience. Remember the College Coach is the "employer" and the player is the "employee".
Bob
@TerribleBPthrower posted:Really depends on the school, but for the most part half the class will be P's and then a bunch of ss and cf with a couple C's. To determine "normal", I'd look at the past few classes and average them out.
To double click on this, keep in mind these recruited SS and CFs are now competing against players in the program that were also SSs and CFs in high school or college. The calculus changes every year. My son's program tried to find the 8 best hitters (including DH) and put them in the field with the Ps and Cs. Former HS SSs had to learn how to play OF if they wanted to get in the starting lineup and eventually move to the infield in future years. This seemed to be a strategy used by many HA programs years ago that had lower turnover.
In the current "transfer portal" era, I think the Coach is going to put out the 8 best hitters (teach them defense) and not really think about next year. Coach for today.
JMO.
I'm going to be blunt, using PG will be a serious blind spot as for it only refers to HS, secondly it is not the single source of HS recruits, there is a disclaimer the information may not be accurate.
As you are aware coaches are recruiting from Transfer Portal, JUCO, Post Grad and HS.
Here is a good article from PBR
Recruiting Essentials: After a month, how are the new NCAA recruiting rules changing the landscape?
With that being said, you will need to look at the school's roster
For example, Notre Dame
This is Coach Shawn Stiffler 2nd year
Here is Notre Dame's 2023 Fall Roster, by primary position and graduation class
Here is the incoming recruiting class for 2023-24 season
Here is the incoming recruiting class by position
Here is there 2022-23 recruiting class that made the spring roster.
Note, in the fall there could have been more players that either transferred or redshirts
Coach Stifler he was hired July 11, 2022, thus the incoming HS recruiting class was set by Link Jarrett and whereas Stifler brought in the transfers
Here is the incoming recruiting class by position
@BaseballGhostMom posted:Thank you all for the info! I’ve seen the pg lists and I’ve poked around for transfer news. Just overthinking and over analyzing coaching decisions, I guess. Meeting with (his) #1 choice this weekend and I’m hoping the decision will be clear after that.
Update- after meeting with them on Saturday, asking our questions, expressing concerns, etc.... son decided to accept the offer sign with them next month. If you need me, I'll be in the fetal position in the corner of my closet. Thank you everyone again for the information.
@BaseballGhostMom posted:Update- after meeting with them on Saturday, asking our questions, expressing concerns, etc.... son decided to accept the offer sign with them next month. If you need me, I'll be in the fetal position in the corner of my closet. Thank you everyone again for the information.
Congrats
@BaseballGhostMom posted:Update- after meeting with them on Saturday, asking our questions, expressing concerns, etc.... son decided to accept the offer sign with them next month. If you need me, I'll be in the fetal position in the corner of my closet. Thank you everyone again for the information.
Well, you know the old saying. You can lead a horse to water, but good luck getting an 18 yr old to make a mature decision!
Ghostmom:
Who will sign the agreement? You and/or your son? Read the "fine print". What are the conditions?
Bob
@adbono posted:Well, you know the old saying. You can lead a horse to water, but good luck getting an 18 yr old to make a mature decision!
At some point in high school I realized my son was a mental gymnast. He had mastered falling out of metaphorical trees while landing on his feet scoring a perfect ten. He mastered turning WTF into “well done.”
Love the way you described your son- mine is similar. We had a long talk last night. He is feeling a lot of pressure and hearing a lot of strong opinions about absolutely everything. He's wanting to show respect to those offering help and advice but also has strong ideas of his own. He's a senior and really busy- our paths don't cross much anymore so as an almost empty nester it warmed my heart to be able to sit and bounce ideas and listen to him verbally navigate through this very unique time.
