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Opinion on parent/coach conflict over health

W wsoxfanatic500+ posts
Originally Posted by jolietboy:
Originally Posted by wsoxfanatic:

       
Originally Posted by jolietboy:
Root we will do the same with the stalker for our own hs games.  nut for my Son's travel ball...   I don't know #1 if the school would let me and #2 once you get used to the timing the pocket radar is very accurate in the long run.  Difference is the stalker missreads once in a blue moon while pocket radar you have.to get a pretty good sample size to be sure.  Pocket radar is good for youth diamonds and for most high school fields.  But if you get a really deep backstop it may be problematic.

Do you have the pocket radar? Been thinking about making the purchase since the new version came out. I continually hear good reviews about their accuracy.


       
White sox, yes they are very accurate - sort of!  Got to be pretty clise to right behind the catcher.  No more than about five feet off that line.  No idea how to put that into an angle.  Also if you have a real deep backstop its 50/50.  Finally you have to live with some misreads.  First pitch I gunned the other day was 132mph.  And that was a 13u!  Obviously has a future...  at least right up until the next reading of 59 which is about where he stayed.  Do yourself a favor ajd pop the extra c note for the ball coach version.  That will allow continuous mode so you always get top speed or 'out of hand' speed.  I bought mine several years ago so it is the refular versiin.  I have to time pushing that button precisely.  But if I take 10 readings or so I fell like I have a pretty good reading.  And after all it is more of a hobby than anything else so if I am off an mph or so I am not going to wig out over it.  Biggest difference between PR and quality guns is range.  But close up it is pretty dead on.  Go get one, a lot of fun!

Thanks. Yes I was going to get the ball coach And it will be for hobby purposes only. Would like to check the boys exit velocity also. By the way total washout down here today so 2 weekends In a row without watching any level of HS baseball

W wsoxfanatic500+ posts
Originally Posted by lionbaseball:
Originally Posted by wsoxfanatic:
Originally Posted by lionbaseball:

I see this post has come back so I will update. 

 

After a month not pitching and recuperating my son pitched a 7 inning 2 hit ball game last Tuesday.  

Total 105 pitch count. 

 

Personally I think he should have been limited to 5 innings.   

As of today his shoulder is a bit sore but getting better after that outing. 

 

 

Sorry to ask but if you could explain again what his injury was. That's a lot of pitches for his first game back. 

His injury, according to the PT, was a muscle sprain to the back shoulder muscle.  He was given exercise to keep the muscle strong in that area.  

 

I totally agree.  Until coaches jobs are at risk for making these decisions it will continue. 

Glad to hear it wasn't any more serious. My 2017 son is recovering from a minor slap tear. MRI was inconclusive but we played it safe. He is starting to do light throwing now. He's also an outfielder so he may get back in the field next week. No pitching yet. His coaches at least realize he needs to be ready for the summer. Pretty scary to all of us. 

J jacjacatk5,000+ posts
Originally Posted by jolietboy:
 
White sox, yes they are very accurate - sort of!  Got to be pretty clise to right behind the catcher.  No more than about five feet off that line

You can actually be reasonably far off the straight line as long as you're willing to adjust the numbers a little. I did the math a while back, and you only need to add 1-2mph for being 12-15 feet off the line (this includes being directly behind the catcher, but elevated like in a press box), IIRC. Consistency of readings is much better the closer you are to in line with the pitcher, though.

 

And I've sat next to Stalker's multiple times with the old version of the PR and gotten the same readings, occasionally +/- 1 mph. You get more "off" or non-reads with the PR, but the Stalker's pick up exit velocities on occasion, too, so nothing's perfect.

M miller3100+ posts

FWIW, I read a comment on here saying they thought HC position at some point is entry level. If I read that correctly, I have to disagree. UNLESS that is their first year ever to coach, and they got the HC job, I wouldn't consider it entry level. Typically, coaches will come in as some sort of assistant either at the HS or college level. Some even volunteer assistants. Rarely have I ever seen a HC become the HC in his first year ever coaching baseball.

M miller3100+ posts
Originally Posted by lionbaseball:

I see this post has come back so I will update. 

 

After a month not pitching and recuperating my son pitched a 7 inning 2 hit ball game last Tuesday.  

Total 105 pitch count. 

 

Personally I think he should have been limited to 5 innings.   

As of today his shoulder is a bit sore but getting better after that outing. 

 

 

Just curious, had he been at 105 pitches by his 5th inning, and then relieved for, would that had been okay? Trying to understand if the innings pitched or # of pitches was what concerned you?

lionbaseballlionbaseball5,000+ posts
Originally Posted by miller3:
Originally Posted by lionbaseball:

I see this post has come back so I will update. 

 

After a month not pitching and recuperating my son pitched a 7 inning 2 hit ball game last Tuesday.  

Total 105 pitch count. 

 

Personally I think he should have been limited to 5 innings.   

As of today his shoulder is a bit sore but getting better after that outing. 

 

 

Just curious, had he been at 105 pitches by his 5th inning, and then relieved for, would that had been okay? Trying to understand if the innings pitched or # of pitches was what concerned you?

You are correct.  Number of pitches.  Should have been capped at 85 pitches since he had been out a month.  

Since I was keeping pitch count he was at about 75 pitches at the end of 5th inning. 

He is starting the last district game today so I don't expect the coach to do anything different.  Hopefully I can get a signal to my son to take himself out. 

M miller3100+ posts
Originally Posted by lionbaseball:
Originally Posted by miller3:
Originally Posted by lionbaseball:

I see this post has come back so I will update. 

 

After a month not pitching and recuperating my son pitched a 7 inning 2 hit ball game last Tuesday.  

Total 105 pitch count. 

 

Personally I think he should have been limited to 5 innings.   

As of today his shoulder is a bit sore but getting better after that outing. 

 

 

Just curious, had he been at 105 pitches by his 5th inning, and then relieved for, would that had been okay? Trying to understand if the innings pitched or # of pitches was what concerned you?

You are correct.  Number of pitches.  Should have been capped at 85 pitches since he had been out a month.  

Since I was keeping pitch count he was at about 75 pitches at the end of 5th inning. 

He is starting the last district game today so I don't expect the coach to do anything different.  Hopefully I can get a signal to my son to take himself out. 

I gotcha... and I agree with you.

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