Out of state tuition ?

it depends on the deal that is made

Thanks TRHit. I figured it was negotiable.

txbaseballdad, don't know if this applies in your situation, but have you checked to see if the college offers "in state" tuition to students from bordering states as part of a reciprocal agreement between states in your region?

Also, check to see if the school offers academic scholarships to out-of-state students based on a required ACT or SAT test score, for example. You might be able to save a couple thousand that way.

Rick is pointing you in the right direction.

Most states have laws that control who can be allowed in-state rates and under what circumstances.

There are many athletes who get in-state rates, but I have only heard of them getting these rates through provisions available to non-athlete students. Different states have different rules: children of certain veterans can sometimes get the lower rate, some schools offer in-state rates to students who meet defined merit criteria, some states offer in-state rates to residents of other states with whom they have reciprocal agreements if they major in certain fields, and some states make it easier than others to shift residency and qualify for in-state rates as an upperclassman.

I have never heard of an athlete "negotiating" in-state tuition. Every case with which I'm familiar has involved one of the provisions mentioned above. I would be very surprised if the NCAA would permit such a practice since it would be a blatant circumvention of the 11.7 scholarship limit.

North Carolina allowed in state tuition for recruits until last year if I am not mistaken.

Thanks for the responses. We have "college night" at my son's school soon and this information has certainly been helpful in guiding me to ask some more informed questions. I am just hopeful that I will have the "problem" to deal with on my son receiving a baseball scholarship regardless if it is in or out of state.

My son was told he would qualify for in state tuition if he took a major that was not offered in his home state, and of course the school had several off the wall majors for out of state students to take to get in state tuition. He chose to stay in state and get the major he wanted.

txdad, many states offer in-state waivers for out-of-state students, if they qualify academically via test scores and/or GPA, without major requirements. The waivers allow out-of-state students to pay in-state tuition. Louisiana is one I know of.

Louisana is good. He likes "mud bugs".

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Originally posted by txbaseballdad:
Louisana is good. He likes "mud bugs".

"Mud Bugs" est tres bien.

http://wiche.edu/wue

Many southern and mid-Atlantic schools participate in what is know as "Academic Common Market".

As mentioned above, it allows for in-state tuition when an out-of-state student is pursuing a particular course of study.

Here's a link to a searchable database of participating schools and majors: ACM

Unfortunately for us in NC, the state is getting out of the common market.

Just went through this with a North Carolina coach. They use to be able to give athletes in-state tuition but, that exception has been eliminated. So, in North Carolina anyway, the answer is that you are responsible for the out of state rate. Having said that, everything is negotiable. They do have 11.7 or around $350K give or take $20k or $30k. ha ha However, most schools (even some mid-major DI's) in NC are not fully funded. So, they don't have 11.7. The A.D. might tell the coach. "Next year, you got $200k. Do the best you can." This is how it was explained to me by a mid-major DI pitching coach in NC.

TR HIT states above in this thread that it "depends on the deal that is made". Does anyone know of specific midwest/midsouth schools where the athletic departments (baseball program) provide in state tuition rates to scholarship players? I'm not talking about the academic coomon market or midwest exchange programs. I would like to know specific schools that offer out of staters in state rates to their baseball players as "part of the deal".

My 2013 has this coming up real quick and some hard $$$ decisions are going to have to be made that he may not like. When looking at the out-of-state tuition rates at the schools that have shown an interest in him and vice versa it is just not feasible financially even with a 50% scholly and additioanl academic money. It would be cheaper to walk on at one of our state schools and the state schools know this! Hopefully his phone starts ringing on July 1st and this will be be one of his scripted questions to ask the schools...

I think you will find most, if not all, out of state offers will assume you are paying the remaining tuition at out of state rates. Some coaches/schools are better at identifying breaks or other scholarships your son might be able to get based upon your particular situation.

If a coach really wants your son at some point there will be a discussion about the cost of attendance and what you can afford. I would not start off a conversation with a coach by telling him I can't afford your school unless you give me x number of $ or in state tuition as the recruiting effort may end right there. Some coaches will up there offers as you move through the process if they really want your son and the cost of attending is a problem for you.

I might add some schools handle some costs differently which can make a difference:

-books for athletes (1,200 to 2,000 per year)
-Rent (i.e. CA UCSB area is 900 per month, VA Tech area 400 per month for larger room - 6k difference per year)
-road meals and per diems, some provide both (500 to 1000 per year)
-medical, larger schools with football teams have on campus dr seen for free, others require you to use your medical plan off campus (depending upon health plan and injury this can be a big number) I think I saved at least 500 per semester on not having to buy supplemental insurance from the school and didn't have to pay for numerous x-rays $500 and at least one emergency room visit $500.
-school has a equipment deal? don't have to buy gloves--$300-$500 per year
-coach puts kids on good summer teams not requiring a large outlay (1,000 - 3,000)

Johnj. More importantly, ALL scholarships are for one year; often renewable but, one year just the same. If things change, not for the better, then you could end up paying the whole amount at the out of state rate. Everybody is different but, we are going to select a school that our son will still enjoy (and can afford) if he didn't end up playing baseball.

SouthGeorgia, NCAA Div. I has made a recent change which now allows schools to offer multi-year athletic scholarships. From the coaches and athletic administrators I've spoken with, I don't think that we will see alot of these being offered, but it is now permissible for Div. I coaches.

Rick, Is this for all NCAA sports or just football?

Multi-year scholarships are now permissible for all Division I sports.

State bordering Texas offer instate reciprocity at State Univ/colleges, provided GPA & test scores work.

I'd also check with NCAA for any academic sanctions or other. Don't want any surprises.