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Alright, at the risk of receiving scorn, I have a question. This does not relate to my son, but it is a question I had that relates to someone I know. Did a little research, but couldn't find it so I thought someone here might know. It is a general question that I have no idea whether we will be faced with or not.

Anyway, if an out of state school offers in state tuition, is this considered scholarship money? The situation involves someone I know who was supposedly offered preferred walk on status to an out of state school and was allowed to pay in state tuition. To be honest, I don't know whether to believe this kid or not, but it got me wondering about the receiving in state tuition question. Is it considered scholarship money, or can this be offered apart from scholarship money?
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Originally posted by bballman:
Alright, at the risk of receiving scorn, I have a question. This does not relate to my son, but it is a question I had that relates to someone I know. Did a little research, but couldn't find it so I thought someone here might know. It is a general question that I have no idea whether we will be faced with or not.

Anyway, if an out of state school offers in state tuition, is this considered scholarship money? The situation involves someone I know who was supposedly offered preferred walk on status to an out of state school and was allowed to pay in state tuition. To be honest, I don't know whether to believe this kid or not, but it got me wondering about the receiving in state tuition question. Is it considered scholarship money, or can this be offered apart from scholarship money?


You have no reason to feel that way, that's a tough question and you do not have other motives for the ones that you ask.

One thing has nothing to do with another. Out of state tuition can be granted to anyone, I believe, if certain criteria is met (for that institution). Also keep in mind that some neighboring state schools are recipical in giving in state tuition. In other words, you scratch my back and I will yours.

Hopefully 3FG will be able to clarify.
For whatever it might be worth, there were posts a few months back on another site suggesting this out of state reciprocity, or offering an out of State in state for tuition is under scrutiny. I believe the comments were focused especially on the State of North Carolina and possibly South Carolina, also.
If I remember right, the entire process is subject to legislative process and approval.
With ever mounting budget deficits, the ability to offer in State for out of State athletes was under review. Some felt it would be a major blow to programs like UNC baseball.
As such, what might be today might not be tomorrow, depending on the economy, the legislature and the importance of sports.
So, it sounds like from what you guys are saying, this is something that can be done, and not considered scholarship money. It can be done with anyone (not just athletes), but is under scrutiny and may or may not be allowed much longer.

I take that to mean that, at this time, a coach could offer in state tuition and give a player a 50% scholarship on in state tuition. Would that be correct?
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Originally posted by bballman:
So, it sounds like from what you guys are saying, this is something that can be done, and not considered scholarship money. It can be done with anyone (not just athletes), but is under scrutiny and may or may not be allowed much longer.

I take that to mean that, at this time, a coach could offer in state tuition and give a player a 50% scholarship on in state tuition. Would that be correct?


Maybe under scrutiny would be the states recipricating, however I do beleive that there are allowances for any student to receive an out of state tuition waiver. It could have been arranged, but usually there is criteria and has nothing to do with on scholarship.
My son went out of state, his os tuition could not be waived, due to his test scores for the criteria(not high enough).
bballman,

The various regional education boards around the country have programs that permit students to get in-state rates at state schools in other states when they pursue programs of study not offered by a state school in their home state.

In our part of the country the regional entity is called the Southern Region Education Board and the cross-state program is called the Academic Common Market (http://www.sreb.org/page/1304/academic_common_market.html).

The program is designed for people who know what they want to study but can't find a school in their home state that offers it. However, it can sometimes be used to find an affordable way to attend the out-of-state school where you want to play baseball IF you can work with the very limited range of highly specialized majors you'll have to choose from.

Sometimes the list of available majors is very small or even non-existent. For example, if your son is a Georgia resident who wants to play baseball at Louisville, the only major available would be something called "equine administration." If he doesn't want to teach horses how to type, he'll have to pay out-of-state rates. If he wants to go to Alabama, he'll have to choose between metallurgical engineering, musical theatre, and American Studies.

Also, different states and different schools participate in different ways (for example, Florida only participates in graduate programs; Auburn only lets juniors and seniors participate).

But if you do happen to find an acceptable major at the baseball school of your choosing, it can be a huge benefit. You can combine this with an athletic scholarship to make an out of state school affordable.

The process is that you first get accepted to the school you want to attend, then you apply through the education department in your home state. We are going through this process right now.

You may PM me if you have more specific questions.

Best wishes,
Last edited by Swampboy
All of these arrangements are predetermined, and not related to athletics, as far as I can see.

From the Ohio board of Regents website:

"By law, Ohio public institutions are required to charge an out-of-state surcharge to out-of-state residents attending Ohio institutions. However, there is a statute within the Ohio Revised Code that allows state-assisted institutions to enter into tuition reciprocity agreements with state-assisted institutions in contiguous states. Currently, there are reciprocity agreements in place with institutions from Indiana, Kentucky, Michigan and West Virginia.
When institutions and state agencies meet to discuss the possibility of creating a tuition reciprocity agreement, some of the following factors are considered when fleshing out the terms of the agreement:
Ease of access from institution-to-institution;
Geographical location of each participating institution;
Distance between institutions;
Population base of the identified reciprocity eligible counties; and
Programs offered.
One of the purposes of reciprocity agreements is to create ease of access for commuter students. Typically, when tuition reciprocity agreements are created, the agreements are formed along border regions and usually with no more than two counties within the state.
Under the terms of reciprocity agreements, the agreements may be amended and must be renewed every two years. This provides an opportunity to balance the agreements to reflect fluctuations in enrollments at each institution."

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