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I wanted to know how this has worked for others on the board who might have experienced this.

The athletic offer is 40%. For simplicity, we'll just deal with the tuition portion of the equation. The student also meets the criteria for a waiver of the portion of tuition above in-state rates.

Resident rate is $8k. Non-resident rate is $18k. Since this is a waiver and not a scholarship, does the athletic scholarship percentage kick in before or after the waiver is applied? So, does it cover 40% of the 18K ($7,200), then apply the waiver of $10k, leaving less than $1k in tuition? Or, rather does the athletic scholarship only cover 40% of $8k?

I ask because I got a different answer from admissions than I got from the coaching staff. Before I got into it, I thought I'd check with more experienced people as to what is the universal norm.

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I know not every college does it this way, but I think it is situations like this where getting a dollar figure vs. a percentage would be a big benefit.

It's too easy to underestimate costs when just given a percentage.  It leads to the whole "percentage of what" issue.  Just tell us a dollar amount and it would make our lives easier.

My guess is it varies from school to school.   Normally the reduction to in state tuition is handled as an academic scholarship.  I would suggest working this through the athletic office as they probably have specific admissions and financial folks they use.  Not all admissions consulars are familiar with the way athletic aid works.

I've got something of a math question.  If the "offer" is a percentage (40% in this case), wouldn't the percentage apply to total COA to include room & board?  Or is the offer specific to 40% of tuition?

If the in-state reduction is classified as a scholarship (has some minimum academic standards - other than simply admission), then you would need to make sure that it passes NCAA clearance and is not counted against athletic totals (I believe three hurdles of which you must clear at least one to include GPA, class ranking and ACT sum score).  if you clear that hurdle, then you should hope it gets doled out as a separate scholarhip.

2017LHPscrewball posted:

I've got something of a math question.  If the "offer" is a percentage (40% in this case), wouldn't the percentage apply to total COA to include room & board?  Or is the offer specific to 40% of tuition?

If the in-state reduction is classified as a scholarship (has some minimum academic standards - other than simply admission), then you would need to make sure that it passes NCAA clearance and is not counted against athletic totals (I believe three hurdles of which you must clear at least one to include GPA, class ranking and ACT sum score).  if you clear that hurdle, then you should hope it gets doled out as a separate scholarhip.

Yes, it's off of tuition, R&B, books. Nothing on the rest of COA (though the school is allowed to, the complete COA isn't part of the offer). I narrowed it down to tuition because it's the only charge that is a variable for resident vs. non-resident.

The aforementioned hurdles are probably not a problem. As to Keewart's post, this is how admissions reads it (though they didn't seem especially sure of their answer) but not how the coach understood it. 

I can see where this would matter, rule-wise, with a 25% offer. Since schollls must offer a minimum of 25% and this counts against their 11.7, it could affect the math on that. 

You may not get it in writing, but I'd get some clarification from the baseball program since you say that the coach does not really view the OOS tuition waiver as some sort of academic scholarship.  The school administration probably does not have the same level of concern as to how this gets defined, whereas the coach has a huge level of concern and he or his staff is the one that will be submitting the athletic scholarship figures to begin with as well as reporting to the NCAA.  If the OOS waiver is some sort of compact between states (have heard about schools in adjoining states that allow students to get OSS if they are seeking a major not provided in their state) then it is probably not a scholarship and you lose out.  If there are some academic requirements to meet the waiver, then it probably rises to the level of an academic scholarship (i.e. available to everyone anywhere based on defined criteria) and your percentage should apply to the starting OOS amount.

Very nice offer.  Please let us know how the conversation goes and any definitive agreement as to how the OSS waiver gets applied and the logic/rules which were applicable.  It sounds like the coach is penciling in 0.4 scholarships for your kid (that will count against his NCAA limit), now you just need to figure out the coach's math behind that figure.  Good luck.

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