Ok we have figured out the speed that our outfielders need to run, but what about there arms....... What kind of throwing distance and velocity are they (D1)looking for?
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Slider, I would caution you not to classify a baseball program simply as D1.
Each program is unique in what it looks for and talent and the Arizona State University coach (a D1 school) will have much dfferent needs and requirements of outfielders in terms of size, speed, and skill than say the coach at Quinipiac (another D1 school).
Its important to evaluate your son's talent, evaluate different schools and see where you fit in. Your question in itself is difficult to answer because every program and coach is different no matter what level.
Johny Damon on the Boston Redsox couldn't break a pain of glass with one of his throws, but he has other skills that make him an attractive centerfielder. But he doesn't have the velocity alone to compete at many top college baseball programs if you were simply judging by velocity.
A coach needs to know all the skills you have and what you can contribute and will not simply recruit a player (or not recruit a player) based simply on how hard and how far they throw.
I have seen outfielders with great arms who can't charge balls and come up throwing and I have seen outfielders with modest arms who force runners to stop running because they get to the ball so fast and come up firing.
Each program is unique in what it looks for and talent and the Arizona State University coach (a D1 school) will have much dfferent needs and requirements of outfielders in terms of size, speed, and skill than say the coach at Quinipiac (another D1 school).
Its important to evaluate your son's talent, evaluate different schools and see where you fit in. Your question in itself is difficult to answer because every program and coach is different no matter what level.
Johny Damon on the Boston Redsox couldn't break a pain of glass with one of his throws, but he has other skills that make him an attractive centerfielder. But he doesn't have the velocity alone to compete at many top college baseball programs if you were simply judging by velocity.
A coach needs to know all the skills you have and what you can contribute and will not simply recruit a player (or not recruit a player) based simply on how hard and how far they throw.
I have seen outfielders with great arms who can't charge balls and come up throwing and I have seen outfielders with modest arms who force runners to stop running because they get to the ball so fast and come up firing.
Bottom line--you got to be a "player" to succeed
ghouse
not to be argumentative but why bring Damon into the picture when we are talking HS and college level talent--he is a fine pro player and tough to use as a comparison at a lower level
TRhit
ghouse
not to be argumentative but why bring Damon into the picture when we are talking HS and college level talent--he is a fine pro player and tough to use as a comparison at a lower level
TRhit
Tom, good to see you keeping up your record of having to respond to and disagree to everything I say. I haven't posted in over a month for this very reason and sure enough, once I do, you are riding my coat-tails.
Damon is a fine pro player because he has other intangibles he brings to the table aside of arm strength. My entire point was that a college coach needs to know more about you as a player and will not recruit you or reject you on simply how hard and far you throw from the outfield. If Damon right now tried to get recuited at a top college based on his arm strength, he would find himself playing at small D3 college. He cannot reach home plate with a throw, but he has other skills that make him an attractive player at the top level.
I would have named some random college outfielder with a terrible arm that plays for a good college , but I couldn't think of any or any that Slider would have heard of.
The question slide asked cannot be answered without factoring in other skills and factoring in the level of (d1) you are looking at and the needs and desires of the coaching staff.
Damon is a fine pro player because he has other intangibles he brings to the table aside of arm strength. My entire point was that a college coach needs to know more about you as a player and will not recruit you or reject you on simply how hard and far you throw from the outfield. If Damon right now tried to get recuited at a top college based on his arm strength, he would find himself playing at small D3 college. He cannot reach home plate with a throw, but he has other skills that make him an attractive player at the top level.
I would have named some random college outfielder with a terrible arm that plays for a good college , but I couldn't think of any or any that Slider would have heard of.
The question slide asked cannot be answered without factoring in other skills and factoring in the level of (d1) you are looking at and the needs and desires of the coaching staff.
ghouse, Two very good posts, and in my opinion, very accurate posts. Slider, read ghouse's posts and you will find the answer that you need.
if you are looking for a general number, scouts will say that 85-86 mph will be considered a plus arm
SOSA
I am not sure about that. I think the mph for a plus arm in the OF is the same that for a pitcher, 90 mph. Anyways accuracy is an important factor also.
"Peace is, the respect for the other people's rights".
Benito Juarez
I am not sure about that. I think the mph for a plus arm in the OF is the same that for a pitcher, 90 mph. Anyways accuracy is an important factor also.
"Peace is, the respect for the other people's rights".
Benito Juarez