Overrunning First Base...Do you have to turn in to foul territory?

no, i believe that you cannot be tagged out unless you try to advance to 2nd while in fair territory.

If you make an attempt to advance to 2nd base, whether you are in foul or fair territory you can be tagged out.

If you turn into fair territory and return to the bag, you cannot be put out.

Pirate Fan is correct, it matters not which way you turn or where you are when you do it. All that matters is either you overrun first and return or you overrun and attempt to go to second. The former makes you immune to a tag, the latter does not.

I realize this is a judgement call but what is considered an attempt to go to second? What do umpires look for to make that decision?

Any step or fake toward second is going to make you liable for a tag.

a deliberate step or feint towards Second.

this one of the classic myths of baseball rules..... right up there with "hands are part of the bat" and "you cant hit a bounced pitch"

IMO...you should never "turn" period.

You should break down right on the foul line and look to the right for an overthrow.

After you've stopped, turn to the left...without making an attempt...and walk back to first in fair territory.

As you turn to your left look and see where the middle INF are. If second is available, start walking that direction before you break.

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Originally posted by piaa_ump:
"hands are part of the bat"

had this one last night (again)

I have an even better one for you. Batter/runner is going to first when there is a wide throw up the line and he slides to avoid a tag. Umpire calls safe, runner ends up in fair territory, 1st baseman realizes he missed the runner and tries to tag him, runner sees this and starts to crawl back to first and is tagged. Umpire calls runner out! How can you be making an attempt to go to 2nd if you are sliding into the bag at 1st? The only attempt the runner made was to 1st! This happened in last year's District finals in a scoreless game in the late innings with no outs. Worst call I ever saw!

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Originally posted by Michael S. Taylor:
Any step or fake toward second is going to make you liable for a tag.