I'll take a shot and pick Lake Braddock to win the District.
Original Post
Replies sorted oldest to newest
How much of last year's team comes back? South County lost some very good players Beal and Perez and a few others I think.
I will also go with lake braddock, i think one word would describe them "Solid".
quote:I think West Potomac is the team to beat this year...believe it or not.
Last year at this time I thought the same thing. They just didn't step up their game like I thought they would last year. They do have some talent.
And, IIRC, a large Senior class with a number of pretty good players - but it takes more than that to win the district. What I've heard is that they (coaches/system) haven't taken full advantage of the talent on hand - take that as it is - anecdotal.
Its hard to wrong with LB. It seems no matter how many talented players they lose, they have a new crop step in.
I agree with Jess1...good players, good depth... better leadership and belief in themselves will determine how far WestPo goes.
West Po doms seem to have an abundance of pitching this year, and a lot of senior experience. Should allow them to do well in the district and get to regionals. But in terms of the strongest teams, I think you have to start with LB, and I would still put WS and SoCo, even though they both graduated a lot of players, ahead of a West Po program that has not recently proven it belongs in the top tier of the district. Don't know anything about Woodson, except it seems they also graduated a lot of seniors. TC has at least one very strong starting pitcher in Grosser, and may be able to make some games interesting, but they are very young this year.
South County will repeat, I think they have some surprising arms ready to step in. LB next and then West Po, T.C....West Springfield will experience a big dropoff.
novabball you have a pm
quote:South County will repeat, I think they have some surprising arms ready to step in
I know SC has one lefty pitcher from last year but doubt anyone other than him than pitched much more than an inning last year. I'm pretty sure SC graduated their 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, and 6 hole hitters from last year. Not saying they won't repeat, but it would surprise me.
Heard a rumor that LBSS is not doing a spring trip this year due to lack of pitching. They have Church and Rogers plus a decent side-arm pitcher in Anthony. A few kids who could have added depth transferred to private school, and the younger kids really don't seem ready. It will be very interesting to see how they fare through the season because otherwise they have a really strong team.
For SC, several guys got plenty of innings on the mound this past summer/fall. Replacing the sticks is another thing.
quote:Originally posted by luv baseball:
How much of last year's team comes back? South County lost some very good players Beal and Perez and a few others I think.
South County lost all there pitching and all their hitting. They have no chance this year. Robinson will compete
1 - South County returns a D1 pitcher and 4 returning starters from a 28-1 team. Do I think they'll be 28-1 again? No. Do they have a "chance" in the Patriot this year? Absolutely.
2- Robinson is in the Concorde, not the Patriot.
2- Robinson is in the Concorde, not the Patriot.
The Patriot should be very competitive this year. I think it will be between Lake Braddock and West Potomac, with West Springfield and South County close behind.
1st Team All-District players returning this year (with last year's numbers):
OF Andrew Rector - South County (.429 BA, .779 Slg%, 33 hits, 6HR, 30 Runs, 25 BIs)
SS Sean Trenchard - West Potomac (.460 BA,.778 Slg%, 29 hits, 4HR, 25 Runs, 23 BIs, 20-21 SBs)
OF Thomas Rogers - Lake Braddock (.444 BA,.611 Slg%, 32 hits, 2HR, 22 Runs, 15 BIs)
RHP Michael Church - Lake Braddock (7-1, 43 IP, 1.95 ERA)
2nd Team All-District returnees:
1B Kyle Fairbanks - South County (.333 BA, .730 Slg%, 21 hits, 6HR, 16 Runs, 25 BIs)
1B Aaron Tovsky - TC Williams (.326 BA, .492 Slg%,20 Hits, 2HR, 5 Runs, 16 BIs)
OF Cameron Thompson - South County (.383 BA, .404 Slg%, 18 Hits, 0HR, 20 Runs, 3 BIs)
OF Blake Thompson - South County (.404 BA, .596 Slg%, 21 Hits, 1HR, 16 Runs, 12 BIs)
OF Daniel Allen - West Springfield (.361 BA, .492 Slg%, 22 Hits, 1HR, 17 Runs, 8 BIs)
UT Connor Tagg - West Springfield (.625 BA, 1.33 Slg%, 15 Hits, 4 HRs, 8 Runs, 15 BIs)
1B Jayme Murray - West Potomac (.386 BA, .667 Slg%, 22 Hits, 5 HRs, 17 Runs, 27 BIs)
LHP Jake Josephs - South County (4-0, 36 IP, 3.50 ERA)
RHP Alec Grosser - TC Williams (2-3, 42 IP, 3.08 ERA)
Lake Braddock loses League MVP in Kenny Towns, which is a big loss. However, they are a talented team with enough pitching and hitting, and excellent coaching that should make them one of the top (if not the top) teams in the region. Top players include 2-way player Thomas Rogers, one of the top hitters in the league last year, RHP Michael Church, and C Garrett Driscoll.
West Potomac returns all starters and should be loaded. This is a very strong defensive team with plenty of pitching to carry them through the season. They are streaky in the hitting department. If they score runs, they could be very tough to beat. Biggest question is whether coaching can get them to play to their potential. Top players include Senior 3B/SS Sean Trenchard, one of the top offensive players in the Northern Region last year and 1B/LHP Jayme Murray, a top 2013 prospect.
South County loses four of the top players in the State (Perez, Bondurant, Frazier, Beal) from last year's Great team. However, they do return some guys who can play with anybody. They will be tough to beat. Questionmarks: Catcher, 3B, SS, 2B, as well as depth at pitching, where Jake Josephs will be the ace. Top returnees are OF Andrew Rector, the OF Thompson Twins (Cameron and Blake) and 1B Kyle Fairbanks.
West Springfield loses several key players from last year's competitive team as well as their head coach who moves to Robinson. Not sure they have enough pitching to compete for a District title, however they will win their share of games. Top returnees looks to be UTIL Connor Tagg, Daniel Allen and Donny Haeuptle.
TC Williams has the top pitcher in the league in Grosser. He is capable of shutting any team down and may cause some disruption along the way. Top player returning is Aaron Tovski.
1st Team All-District players returning this year (with last year's numbers):
OF Andrew Rector - South County (.429 BA, .779 Slg%, 33 hits, 6HR, 30 Runs, 25 BIs)
SS Sean Trenchard - West Potomac (.460 BA,.778 Slg%, 29 hits, 4HR, 25 Runs, 23 BIs, 20-21 SBs)
OF Thomas Rogers - Lake Braddock (.444 BA,.611 Slg%, 32 hits, 2HR, 22 Runs, 15 BIs)
RHP Michael Church - Lake Braddock (7-1, 43 IP, 1.95 ERA)
2nd Team All-District returnees:
1B Kyle Fairbanks - South County (.333 BA, .730 Slg%, 21 hits, 6HR, 16 Runs, 25 BIs)
1B Aaron Tovsky - TC Williams (.326 BA, .492 Slg%,20 Hits, 2HR, 5 Runs, 16 BIs)
OF Cameron Thompson - South County (.383 BA, .404 Slg%, 18 Hits, 0HR, 20 Runs, 3 BIs)
OF Blake Thompson - South County (.404 BA, .596 Slg%, 21 Hits, 1HR, 16 Runs, 12 BIs)
OF Daniel Allen - West Springfield (.361 BA, .492 Slg%, 22 Hits, 1HR, 17 Runs, 8 BIs)
UT Connor Tagg - West Springfield (.625 BA, 1.33 Slg%, 15 Hits, 4 HRs, 8 Runs, 15 BIs)
1B Jayme Murray - West Potomac (.386 BA, .667 Slg%, 22 Hits, 5 HRs, 17 Runs, 27 BIs)
LHP Jake Josephs - South County (4-0, 36 IP, 3.50 ERA)
RHP Alec Grosser - TC Williams (2-3, 42 IP, 3.08 ERA)
Lake Braddock loses League MVP in Kenny Towns, which is a big loss. However, they are a talented team with enough pitching and hitting, and excellent coaching that should make them one of the top (if not the top) teams in the region. Top players include 2-way player Thomas Rogers, one of the top hitters in the league last year, RHP Michael Church, and C Garrett Driscoll.
West Potomac returns all starters and should be loaded. This is a very strong defensive team with plenty of pitching to carry them through the season. They are streaky in the hitting department. If they score runs, they could be very tough to beat. Biggest question is whether coaching can get them to play to their potential. Top players include Senior 3B/SS Sean Trenchard, one of the top offensive players in the Northern Region last year and 1B/LHP Jayme Murray, a top 2013 prospect.
South County loses four of the top players in the State (Perez, Bondurant, Frazier, Beal) from last year's Great team. However, they do return some guys who can play with anybody. They will be tough to beat. Questionmarks: Catcher, 3B, SS, 2B, as well as depth at pitching, where Jake Josephs will be the ace. Top returnees are OF Andrew Rector, the OF Thompson Twins (Cameron and Blake) and 1B Kyle Fairbanks.
West Springfield loses several key players from last year's competitive team as well as their head coach who moves to Robinson. Not sure they have enough pitching to compete for a District title, however they will win their share of games. Top returnees looks to be UTIL Connor Tagg, Daniel Allen and Donny Haeuptle.
TC Williams has the top pitcher in the league in Grosser. He is capable of shutting any team down and may cause some disruption along the way. Top player returning is Aaron Tovski.
Grosser is definitely a good pitcher, and probably the best that TC has had in a while.......but best pitcher in the district?
Id humbly submit Michael Church. He and Rodgers should make an awfully nice tandem.
Lake Braddock may have a few early hiccups, and they certainly aren't ridiculously talented like SC was last year........ but Id still count on them to vastly improve as the season progresses (like they always seem to) and be the class of the Patriot by years' end.
Id humbly submit Michael Church. He and Rodgers should make an awfully nice tandem.
Lake Braddock may have a few early hiccups, and they certainly aren't ridiculously talented like SC was last year........ but Id still count on them to vastly improve as the season progresses (like they always seem to) and be the class of the Patriot by years' end.
Agree @ LB. They should have a very good defense & team speed - the big "if" is pitching, but barring any major problems they'll have a good season. SC will be tough, though...
quote:Originally posted by eyefortalent1:quote:Originally posted by Jess1:
Agree @ LB. They should have a very good defense & team speed - the big "if" is pitching, but barring any major problems they'll have a good season. SC will be tough, though...
How can there be a big "if" in pitching for LB? They have two D1 signees at pitcher.
Because those 2 can't pitch every inning and there is very little proven depth in their staff. That said, LB always seems to have few unknowns step up. No reason to think they won't again this year.
Patriot District scrimmages:
Lake Braddock - no schedule up yet on website
3/1 South County at Bishop Ireton (Rainout?)
3/2 Paul VI at West Potomac
3/3 West Springfield at Riverbend
3/3 O'Connell at Woodson
3/3 TC Williams at Bishop Ireton
3/3 Annandale at Park View
3/3 Garfield at Lee
3/7 Hayfield at South County
3/8 Bishop Ireton at West Potomac
3/10 West Springfield vs. Flint Hill (at Oakton)
3/10 West Springfield at Oakton
3/10 Centreville at Woodson
3/10 Edison at Woodson
3/10 Stuart at Lee
3/10 Marshall at Annandale
Lake Braddock - no schedule up yet on website
3/1 South County at Bishop Ireton (Rainout?)
3/2 Paul VI at West Potomac
3/3 West Springfield at Riverbend
3/3 O'Connell at Woodson
3/3 TC Williams at Bishop Ireton
3/3 Annandale at Park View
3/3 Garfield at Lee
3/7 Hayfield at South County
3/8 Bishop Ireton at West Potomac
3/10 West Springfield vs. Flint Hill (at Oakton)
3/10 West Springfield at Oakton
3/10 Centreville at Woodson
3/10 Edison at Woodson
3/10 Stuart at Lee
3/10 Marshall at Annandale
I think when you consider who will be competitive in the Patriot District this year beyond Lake Braddock and South county you need to look at what the JV programs looked like two years ago. West Potomac did not fare well and neither did South County.
I can't believe whenWest Sprongfield is discussed that juniors Taylor Boyd (SS)and Frank Sturek (OF/RHP) are not mentioned. Both where starters as sophmores for West Springfield last year and selected All District honorable mention. Sturek starts in the outfield for the 17U Canes.
I can't believe whenWest Sprongfield is discussed that juniors Taylor Boyd (SS)and Frank Sturek (OF/RHP) are not mentioned. Both where starters as sophmores for West Springfield last year and selected All District honorable mention. Sturek starts in the outfield for the 17U Canes.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by army89:
I think when you consider who will be competitive in the Patriot District this year beyond Lake Braddock and South county you need to look at what the JV programs looked like two years ago. West Potomac did not fare well and neither did South County.QUOTE]
Don't forget what this group did back in Springfield Little League..........
I think when you consider who will be competitive in the Patriot District this year beyond Lake Braddock and South county you need to look at what the JV programs looked like two years ago. West Potomac did not fare well and neither did South County.QUOTE]
Don't forget what this group did back in Springfield Little League..........
[QUOTE]Originally posted by army89:
I think when you consider who will be competitive in the Patriot District this year beyond Lake Braddock and South county you need to look at what the JV programs looked like two years ago. West Potomac did not fare well and neither did South County.
That would be because most of the West Potomac 2012 guys were playing Varsity at that time. Same with the South County core group. Some programs move the top Freshmen and Sophmores up to Varsity and some can leave them down.
You have to be careful judging things from a Junior Varsity team. Some of those JV guys NEVER make it onto the Varsity Starting lineup.
That said, I'm sure the guys you are talking about will do well.
I think when you consider who will be competitive in the Patriot District this year beyond Lake Braddock and South county you need to look at what the JV programs looked like two years ago. West Potomac did not fare well and neither did South County.
That would be because most of the West Potomac 2012 guys were playing Varsity at that time. Same with the South County core group. Some programs move the top Freshmen and Sophmores up to Varsity and some can leave them down.
You have to be careful judging things from a Junior Varsity team. Some of those JV guys NEVER make it onto the Varsity Starting lineup.
That said, I'm sure the guys you are talking about will do well.
Although I agree that a school's JV record from two year's ago means little to their present day Varsity performance, I did look up South County's and West Potomac's 2010 JV record on the basis of Army 89's statement just for the heck of it.
Last year's state runner-up, South County, had a JV record in 2010 of 4 and 10. West Potomac had a record of 9 and 5, with two wins over West Springfield. Figuratively speaking only, no one on this site would wager on this year's varsity games using that information.
EyeforTalent has it correct.
Last year's state runner-up, South County, had a JV record in 2010 of 4 and 10. West Potomac had a record of 9 and 5, with two wins over West Springfield. Figuratively speaking only, no one on this site would wager on this year's varsity games using that information.
EyeforTalent has it correct.
quote:Originally posted by Just Watching:
Although I agree that a school's JV record from two year's ago means little to their present day Varsity performance, I did look up South County's and West Potomac's 2010 JV record on the basis of Army 89's statement just for the heck of it.
Last year's state runner-up, South County, had a JV record in 2010 of 4 and 10. West Potomac had a record of 9 and 5, with two wins over West Springfield. Figuratively speaking only, no one on this site would wager on this year's varsity games using that information.
EyeforTalent has it correct.
We'll see what happens this season! It will be an interesting year for teams other than LB. I think West Potomac is rated too high by most on this blog/site. JV performance is just a data point that was not considered I think. There are other points to consider like travel team programs the players play on and their performance at showcase tournaments.
quote:Originally posted by army89:quote:Originally posted by Just Watching:
Although I agree that a school's JV record from two year's ago means little to their present day Varsity performance, I did look up South County's and West Potomac's 2010 JV record on the basis of Army 89's statement just for the heck of it.
Last year's state runner-up, South County, had a JV record in 2010 of 4 and 10. West Potomac had a record of 9 and 5, with two wins over West Springfield. Figuratively speaking only, no one on this site would wager on this year's varsity games using that information.
EyeforTalent has it correct.
We'll see what happens this season! It will be an interesting year for teams other than LB. I think West Potomac is rated too high by most on this blog/site. JV performance is just a data point that was not considered I think. There are other points to consider like travel team programs the players play on and their performance at showcase tournaments.
I'd love to hear your perspective on the travel and showcase performance of these team's players...
I would too...
quote:Originally posted by eyefortalent1:
I would too...
Well - pull up any of the starting junior players for South County or West Potomac on Perfect Game and I don't see selections for Showcase Top Prospect Teams or blog write-ups on stabnd-out performances at the World wood Bat championships in East Cobb. also, I can't find any of these players on a Canes roster. Both are not end-all-be-all data points, but should be considered when looking at talent. LB has several Canes players and players with standout performances in Perfect Game events and showcases.
Juniors? What about Seniors?
The season starts next week. Good luck.
The season starts next week. Good luck.