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Awesome. I once saw a basketball game where the home team fans held up newspapers and pretended to read them when the other team had the ball.

What a great group of kids. I love to see teams supporting each other like this. You can bet it was jealousy from the other teams. We have had this at baseball games where students were asked to calm down their cheers. What? This is not GOLF!

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It would seem to me that the PC Police would have a difficult time with these students...


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All of those definitions and attributes are positive. Why curb their enthusiasm?

those opposing teams would go nuts here in southern indiana.....schools around here are famous for their cheer blocks!! it's nothing for our school to have 125 - 175 students at basketball, volleyball and football games screaming at the top of their lungs.

we play a team from scottsburg, indiana. the gym is off-site in a former school building....it's called the boiler because it runs on boiler heat and temps for a mid-winter game can run over 85 degrees. their pep band is insane and their cheerblock is so loud you need earplugs!!! our kids love playing there........

just wish hs baseball got that kind of support...

It all depends on what was coming out of those mouths before.

Unfortunately, we live in an era where many teens believe it's OK to shout all sorts of gutter talk just because it's a sporting event.

I have personally heard all sorts of profanity, heckling that went WAY over the line, and ongoing tirades that made "unsportsmanlike" the understatement of the century.

I don't know what went on with these particular boys, but you might ask the powers that be if they had evidence of that kind of thing. And if they did, I hope you will support their efforts to enforce proper behavior.

I am no fan of political correctness, but I have personally gone to student fans at some sporting events and told them they needed to KNOCK IT OFF. I'm talking f-bombs in abundance, calling opposing players by epithets related to sexual preference, and worse. If I had caught my son doing it, the principal would have been the least of his worries. If more parents were aware of what went on and willing to put their collective feet down, we wouldn't have to have other people try to intervene to teach our kids how to behave at a public event, or really, anywhere.

Also be aware that there have been many instances where rowdy crowd behavior has escalated into riots, including shootings. So this is not innocent, harmless stuff we're talking about.

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It all depends on what was coming out of those mouths before.

Unfortunately, we live in an era where many teens believe it's OK to shout all sorts of gutter talk just because it's a sporting event.

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am no fan of political correctness, but I have personally gone to student fans at some sporting events and told them they needed to KNOCK IT OFF. I'm talking f-bombs in abundance, calling opposing players by epithets related to sexual preference, and worse. If I had caught my son doing it, the principal would have been the least of his worries. If more parents were aware of what went on and willing to put their collective feet down, we wouldn't have to have other people try to intervene to teach our kids how to behave at a public event, or really, anywhere

Right you are.

When I read the original post, my first thought was that what happened may have had to do with classless behavior on the part of the cheering section, instead of political correctness on the part of the school authorities.

Years ago I hoped inner city kids would start emulating middle class kids. Too bad, but it seems that the opposite has happened.

What does being PC have to do with school spirit/

Kids cannot have fun anymore

14 years ago when my guys where in HS myself and two other dads made all the games that our kids were on---we even had our own section and the AD would join us during the games---we were fortunate that our job positions allowed us the time but we were loud and always cheering--today we might well get thrown out of the gym for being NON -PC

If I were an AD, and 25 kids in the stands were chanting in unison, "______ sucks, _____sucks," I would show them the door. That's not being PC, that's being a Man.

Now, after those snot-nosed kids enlist in the Marines, and earn their stipes, and are in a dive bar somewhere, then they've earned the right and can cuss like a Marine.

Considering the way values have degraded, if a high school cheering section is banned, in my mind they're guilty until proven innocent.

I doubt the othert team would complain if they were winning. Too bad. So sad. Got and issue? Grab a tissue, I say. I heard the other team complained about the students at Duke too. BTW I am usually horse from heckling at the end of every single game. If you want to sit in peace and sip charrdonay, then don't follow your team to Lafayette. We don't tip toe up to the line of political correctness. We wipe it out....daily.

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If I were an AD, and 25 kids in the stands were chanting in unison, "______ sucks, _____sucks," I would show them the door. That's not being PC, that's being a Man.

I should have mentioned that the situation above is the one my buddy (an AD) and I dealt with at a HS hockey game this winter. Zero tolerance for classless behavior.

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If I were an AD, and 25 kids in the stands were chanting in unison, "______ sucks, _____sucks," I would show them the door. That's not being PC, that's being a Man.

I should have mentioned that the situation above is the one my buddy (an AD) and I dealt with at a HS hockey game this winter. Zero tolerance for classless behavior.

My God. If they eject every heckler at Fenway who chanted "Yankees Suck!" the game would be played in front of 12 nuns and 4 mutes.

freddy me boy----you are one interesting character


Where in the Northeast are you from?

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My God. If they eject every heckler at Fenway who chanted "Yankees Suck!" the game would be played in front of 12 nuns and 4 mutes.

That's because NY and Bos fans lack class. St. Louis is a baseball town. But you don't have to listen to that garbage at the games.

I've worked construction all my life. Every other word is f__ this and f__ that. Including me. No women, no children. No problem.

It's classless to chant "Yankees Suck" in mixed company. They're not referring to ******* eggs.

In the name of tolerance and being open-minded, we're letting our brains fall out.

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That's because NY and Bos fans lack class. St. Louis is a baseball town..

Don't listen to what Joe Buck sez.. He's only on TV cuz of daddy.

It's ridiculous students can't be rowdy as long as it's not vulgar language. I love it when the student section can get inside the heads of players. Every once in a while they get under the skin of a coach.

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I am no fan of political correctness, but I have personally gone to student fans at some sporting events and told them they needed to KNOCK IT OFF. I'm talking f-bombs in abundance, calling opposing players by epithets related to sexual preference, and worse.

We had a parent this year at my high school who was apparently a licensed basketball official. He sat in the stands during games and yelled that the referees all night every time I was home to see them play. On more than one occasion, this included the F-bomb... And the officials are supposed to be promoting sportsmanship?

I loved watching high school basketball down here in Southeast Missouri this winter. Their students show up in numbers and they have a good time. The high school I'm has bleachers on either end as well as the sides... most games the end bleachers had the two student sections and they would chant back and forth all night long. It was great!

We get onto kids all the time about not having any school spirit but the first thing they do is tell them to be quiet. The logic escapes me. I do agree that a student fan section has to have class and not put the school / team in a bad light with what they say.

At my last school there was a huge double standard in terms of student fan sections with basketball and baseball. In baseball we had a RF Bunch. They came to the game in shorts and T-shirts (when it was warm) and cooked out, put lawn chairs in the back of trucks, played cornhole between innings, jumped into a paylake behind LF after homeruns and the greatest thing is set off fireworks when we hit a homerun or won a game. They were classy and I never heard them cuss once and the reason is I told them if they were going to be at the game they had to act right - so they did. One game the other team's pitcher tried to pick our runner at first numerous times in a row. One kid yells out "Are you kidding me? Just pitch the ball already! You're not going to get him anyway!" Everyone in the ballpark heard him and the ump stopped the game and made the AD break up the crowd. Several of the kids got pulled into the office and lectured about acting right at games.

During basketball season there was a student fan section and they would stand on the floor just past the out of bounds line. As clock keeper I was across the gym and could see them yelling cuss words at the other team, yelling at officials, yelling at the other team and numerous times the officials had to move them away from the playing court. Nothing was ever said to them - ever.

My younger son was not the serious athlete in our family, and in his senior year he declined to play his main sport (basketball) because he was devoting so much time to preparing for music auditions for his chosen college.

So he became the lead maniac in the student section at basketball games. My favorite yearbook photo of him shows him with school colors painted on his cheeks, mouth wide open and a wild look in his eyes, sweat dripping down his face, in the center of a mass of screaming teenage basketball fans. They had so much fun and the players loved it, thrived on the high-decibel encouragement. The student fans never said cuss words or showed really bad manners, but some of their cheers were witty! I think my son came home as tired and sweaty from basketball games that year as when he was playing - and much more hoarse!

Julie

"It all depends on what was coming out of those mouths before."


I attended most of the games. The worst that would come out of the kid's mouths was air ball, brick, double airball, and witty stuff the kids would come up with as the game progressed,just very loud and over and over and over until you thought you would lose your mind. Our principal would never, ever allow anything vulgar. They would get into the other team's heads and I guess they didn't like that. Yes, the opposing teams that complained lost the game.

My son was a ring leader in the basketball crowd his senior year and the kids did mamy of the same things mentioned in this thread. Nobody complained. This was the best one, however: One of the guys had a friend who attended the school that we were playing that night. He contacted his friend via Facebook to get the "dirt" on the opposing team's players. Turns out that one of the starters had just broken up with his girlfriend. The kid got her name. During the game, the first time the player went to the free throw line, the kids started chanting the girl's name. The grin on the opposing player's face was priceless.

re: If they eject every heckler at Fenway who chanted "Yankees Suck!" the game would be played in front of 12 nuns and 4 mutes.

so....

Is there not a clear difference (in generally acceptable behavior) at a local h.s. rivalry between say the BugTussle Bears and the Big Rock Rebels...

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a Fenway game with $99 zillion-per-year starting pitcher salaries, and car-payment-prices for a single game tickets?

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Originally posted by louisiana09:
"It all depends on what was coming out of those mouths before."


I attended most of the games. The worst that would come out of the kid's mouths was air ball, brick, double airball, and witty stuff the kids would come up with as the game progressed,just very loud and over and over and over until you thought you would lose your mind. Our principal would never, ever allow anything vulgar. They would get into the other team's heads and I guess they didn't like that.

Yes, the opposing teams that complained lost the game.

Shocking isn't it? It's not a heckling issue. It is a losing and responsibility issue. Yet in a year or two the same kids might be on patrol in Afghanny? The wussification continues, gathering steam. I wish I had a nickel for every time my HS hoop coach dropped an F Bomb during a game. The guy was and is a coaching legend in New England. It is part of the game. Folks need to get over it or get going, imo.

I just read this post. WOW!!!! Being from indiana, where basketball is king. We have high school gyms that seat more than some colleges. The high school I coach baseball at is in the same sectional as Lawrence North (Oden and Conley), North Central (Eric Gordon), Arligton (D. Vaughn Cincy's leading scorer), and two of these three schools gyms are sold out every night. We have some schools that actually have season tickets to go to high school basketball games. My school is not nearly as popular in the basketball ranks but we still show up in bunches to support our team. We use to do the same thing as mich St, count dribbles on free throws, newspapers, if someone signed at a school we would play the college's arch rivals school song. We were considered mild. if this same situation happened in Indiana the AD would be fired. I have even heard the bull **** chant ring several times in each one of these gyms.

This past weekend we had almost 15,000 people attend our girls 4A state finals.

The picture of the gym in this topic would be an elementary school gym in Indiana. most gyms are two levels. It is amazing the difference in cultures.