People need to chill

Well said, too many times everyone tries to defend there point without listening or reading in this context. Also you are right no one learns the same way and it is not a one size fits all.
Sometomes we need to practice an old saying "Understand before we try to be understood"

I concur coach. Many are loquacious but few are erudite.

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Originally posted by oldnumber19:
I concur coach. Many are loquacious but few are erudite.

Dictionary PLEASE!

Really, it comes down to agendas. Some are:

1. The Expert - He and he only knows the real way. Divine Providence has blessed him.
2. The Troll - He doesn't care to know, has some knowledge and we know what they say about those that have just enough knowledge. This agenda is simply to insult. Never is any worthwhile info given. (We have Trolls on this site. We also have people categorized as Trolls who aren't. Guess that always comes with the nature of a website. I'm sure if we all met, we'd get along.)
3. The Message Board Junkie - They just want to read, learn, contribute, ... They are sometimes wrong but have good intent. I place myself in this category.
4. The Sharer of knowledge/info - This person wants to direct people toward their conclusions but doesn't force the issue. They let the reader move at their own pace. If the reader agrees, great. If not, they move on to the next topic.
5. The Parent - We have all types here. Some of the best people around who just want some source of knowledge to help them get a handle on ... This site is great for that. Most of these parents don't have to be "right." They would walk through fire for their kid and so, they frequent this site.
6. The Player - They come here with very simple to very complex questions. They want to exchange ideas with kids their age and read what other older than themselves have to say. Again, they just want to be better. Most of the Trolls in this group rarely stick around for more than a post or two.

I'm sure I could list more. However, the point of this thread is that we all get along. This has been a theme of mine in the past and will continue to be one.

Coachb, the real problem is this; coaches are like physicians, you have to be right 100% of the time. And that leads to problems like those exhibited on this board.

Just as nobody wants to go to a doctor who is wishy-washy about treatment, nobody respects a coach who is hesitant about instruction. So you are always going to get people who are know-it-alls (including myself) because they HAVE to be.

Just as the best physicians are those always determined to improve despite having a confident bedside manner. The same can be said for coaches and instructors.

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Many are loquacious but few are erudite.

I tend to disagree. Let’s give the HSBBW a little more credit than that. A great discussion must have different points and while many may struggle defining their perspective, the majority of the readers can understand where the poster is coming from. Let’s not forget this is the internet and is not the best way for expressing one’s emotions. We should hesitate to criticize others simply because the poster cannot construct an eloquent paragraph.
Fungo

"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it"?
Voltaire

Fungo,

It was a joke. coach2709 was advocating plain speaking (and appropriately so) and I was adding a little humor by...

Ahhh, never mind.

oldnumber19,
I'm kinda slow. Maybe I would have understood better if you had pasted one of the little after your post ---- Ahh never mind

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Originally posted by oldnumber19:
Coachb, the real problem is this; coaches are like physicians, you have to be right 100% of the time. And that leads to problems like those exhibited on this board.

Just as nobody wants to go to a doctor who is wishy-washy about treatment, nobody respects a coach who is hesitant about instruction. So you are always going to get people who are know-it-alls (including myself) because they HAVE to be.

Just as the best physicians are those always determined to improve despite having a confident bedside manner. The same can be said for coaches and instructors.

No disrespect intended but I don't agree with this post. Good doctors will admit there is more they do not know then what they do know. Good doctors, like coaches, have certain areas they have a lot of knowledge on and realize some may have more expertise in areas they may be weak in. That is why there are specialists.

The real problem is when you have coaches or doctors that think they know it all 100% of the time. There is no such thing as a know-it-all just those that think they know-it-all. Nobody is perfect or a know-it-all. With that said there are those that know more than the majority of us..... that after all is why I'm here.

Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't it Earl Weaver that addressed this dilema around forty years ago by saying, "It's what we learn after we know it all that counts."