Perfect Game and size

Your son is 6'2" and your worried in any way about that?

Who cares what others r doing. It's about who can hit. 

Find something better to worry about.

I think PGStaff has answered the self-reporting question on here before (they are self-reported). I have a possible explanation for your example. Players/parents update the player profiles for events like showcases. So the player grew from his self-reported 6’3” to 6’4” from one showcase to the next. Then his coach submitted profiles for two tournament with his estimated numbers. Then it reverted back to his main profile height. In terms of recruiting, I really don’t think it matters what the PG profile says.

I would hope I didn't express any "worry." More like amusement.

       

My son grew an inch from when I originally post on PG website. I changed it on his profile; however, his height for his last two tournaments show an old height. I can't figure out how to change it on the two tournaments (and I'm not going to ask the coach to do it since in my sons case doesn't really matter). This may explain some of what you are seeing

I know a player on there that is listed as 5'10/'11....there's no way he's anything taller than 5'8"...I imagine a lot of individuals perceive the lack of size as something which is frowned upon...

I regard this as akin to writing a resume.

If you get an interview, you want to be able to back every claim in your resume with specific facts and examples that cement the impression that there is more to you in real life than on paper.

I can't count how many times I've eliminated job candidates from consideration when I interviewed them and found out their resumes put forward a better face than they ever could in person.

I don't think it's a good idea to try to entice next-level interest with inaccurate information.  If the tactic succeeds, only to disappoint when the info proves unreliable, it isn't really succeeding.

Whenever any form asks for height, it means height in stocking feet.  Rounding up less than a half inch is okay.  Anything more is stretching it. 

 I always hear in baseball that size doesnt matter.  but you know what...

I am begining to think it does...  would a coach look at a PG game profile if the kid is 5'8" and playing 3rd base..?? IMHO I think the coach will overlook this kid... or at a show case this kid might not pass the eye test..

A kid 5'8", plays with all his heart and soul, does that count in a sport where size doesnt matter... 

How about a kid that has a 60 time of say 7.3 but could steal bases like there is no tomorrow... leads his team in stolen bases does that number matter...? or does he have to be under 7.0 / 6.???

IMHO again, Size.?? if its D1 maybe.. if its D2, D3 & Juco.. not so much just sayin...

Just sayin,

Joe

I wonder what Dustin Pedroia put on his PG Profile page..ha ha ha

I think you are right on the size, but the 60 time does matter.  plenty of D-1 Coach's have told us they like their infielders to be under 7.0.  I have wondered if after next season this will change slightly because of the new baseball?  I'm not saying that speed will be demphasized, but rather, power maybe a little more important again.  If that is true, more people may fudge their kids size on these sites.  In the end though, it all comes out.  Also, if your kid can play, he can play.  Scouts know who can and can't.

D1 --60 times = MIF's right .? 

What do you mean about the new baseball..? any links so I can read up on this... thanks

ok back to this is about PG and size.  I measure my son when he has his cleats on and go with that...5'10" and 1/4...ha ha ha

thanks

Joe

I agree it probably doesn't matter but I understand your concern.  My son is a legit 6'3" 225 lbs in stocking feet.  The admin for his summer team listed him as 6'0" 200.  No idea if it matters or not.  It bugged me but not enough to have him correct it.  My guess is that the consensus opinion here is right.  

Colleges - at least DI & DII - are going to the low seam baseball, similar to the MLB ball.  It is supposed to give the ball more flight time with the same exit speed due to decreased friction caused by the higher seams they had been using.

@ Jim T

That is to far off, I would have your son call the coach on that.. 3" / 25 lbs. to fix.

to much of a gap...

Oh cool ...thank you...do you think we will also see colleges going to wood bats.?

or maybe at least when playing in the CWS games...

My son is a HS senior 17U and playing in PG wood bat games.and other summer wood bat games in Ohio. asking myself why..?

**When my son grows to 5'11" I will be a proud father to change that PG Profile..ha ha 

Joe

FYI, when your team coach uploads the team roster, the PG on line system requires entry of a lot of info that the coach may find he doesn't have right at his finger tips.  I for one have occasionally guessed and then tried to remember to go back and edit later.  Also, the system allows you to just upload a player whose info you put in for a prior event; that's easy, but also easy to forget to update things that do change over time, like height and weight.

In the end, a player can edit his own profile.  So if you see something wrong, fix it. 

Most people just want accurate information.  How it affects recruiting, who knows.  Some guys like tall pitchers, others buy into the theory that after you get above 6'3" the ability to repeat delivery mechanics becomes a greater issue.  You may think being 225 lbs is a plus, but that's all subject to the eye test -- hard body or Pillsbury Doughboy?  Etc. 

It's a mistake to post inaccurate info because you end up negating interest from those who might like you if they bothered to come see you, while potentially garnering initial/superficial interest from those who won't like you when they do see you.

It does matter, pick any D1 roster and what is the percentage of sub-6 kids on there? 

UofMich's roster percentage of sub-6's the last three years has gone from 20%, to 19%, to 3%.  And if you've read the other post on this site about Bakich's pedigree and desire to make Mich relevant again I'd say that's a trend based on knowing bigger is better.  

So with all due respect to the Pedroia's of the world, if you aren't 6'+ you better be beast in all 5 tools or your not going D1.

Now excuse me while go I put 2017 back on the rack!

We always had our players round their size down to the lesser inch and to the lesser 5lb increment. Sometimes a scout or recruiter would say, This kid looks and plays bigger than listed. If they are pleasantly surprised with a kids size that's a good thing.

The ball that will be used in college is pretty much the same ball that's being used in PG tournaments.  I don't think colleges will change to wood bats anytime soon, if at all.  The reason for the ball change was to get some more offense back after changing to the BBCOR bats.  For one thing, I don't think they'll go to wood for that reason (although as a pitcher's dad, it would be nice).  The other thing is I think the aluminum bat companies would not be too happy with going to all wood.  I believe the reason PG uses the wood is for the benefit of the pro scouts.  I'm sure they like to see what some of these prospects do with wood vs. aluminum.  

Has the change of ball had an impact on pitching?  I am curious if lower profile seams has brought more of an emphasis on quality FB, quality offspeed.  I am under the impression that the baseballs used previously in college with their more prominent seams made it easier to throw breaking balls.  My son's and their teams have been using wood bats and MLB regulation baseballs exclusively since freshman HS season.

Even when they would travel to the States for tournaments sometimes their team would be the only ones using wood bats - and they won several of those tournaments.

Has the change of ball had an impact on pitching?

We'll find out next season. It would make sense it would affect snapping off a curve.

Regarding size:  A recently retired D1 coach told me this past summer that baseball is a prejudiced sport.  If you're 6'1" and under, you've got to prove every day that you can play ball.  If you're 6'2" and over, you've got to prove every day that you can't.  That has always stuck with me.  Whether you or I agree or not is irrelevant.  That mindset is out there.

NOTE:  He also said the rule doesn't apply to MIFs and anybody that can run the 60 in 6.8 or better.

Regarding seams:  You'd better believe it makes a difference.  Good pitchers will adjust, but I'm sure every one of them would tell you (if they're being honest) they'd take raised seams over flat seams any day of the week.  That's like asking a gear-head if he wants more horsepower or a geek if he wants a solid-state drive.

This has been posted before, and I do not mean to highjack this thread, but here is Baseball Americas article about the flat seam ball.

http://www.baseballamerica.com...eamed-balls-in-2015/

They are just changing the seam. Changing the core can increase exit speed and add additional risk to the fielders. 

Kids who throw two seam may see increased movement while breaking balls may have less.

quote:

Pitchers will need to adjust to the new seams, which could make it harder for pitchers to spin breaking balls but could lead to more movement on two-seam balls, according to some pitchers we consulted who played in both college and the minor leagues. Leech said the NCAA conducted a “limited study” about how the new seams affect the movement of the ball out of a pitcher’s hand.

It is a truism that if you can hit you will play but you have to get the chance first.

When my son was 14 my father asked me what the chances were for him to play big time baseball were.  I said two factors - how much will he work and will God make him 6'3".  He probably could have done more but God never made him bigger than he was at 15.  He was the classic kid that tops out early physically and was a pretty polished player by 14 so he had everything he was going to get as a Freshman in HS. 

He was 5'9" 160 lb. HS OF that could and did hit anyone but only had doubles power.  He had slightly above average speed and arm but nothing you'd call a plus tool.  He was a three year starter and possibly the best contact hitter at a HS program that had 12+ DI products in it including 2 ACC and 1 SEC recruit so he was getting seen.   He got 3 or 4 DI nibbles at schools he wasn't interested in attending.

If he had been 6'3" with occasional HR power with the rest of his tools he might not have been an SEC recruit but I have no doubt the level of interest would have been significantly different.  But the reality is that physically he was like tens of thousands of other kids across the country size wise that the game winnows out at 18. 

One of the kids he played travel ball with at 12/13/14 was a skinny LHP that was the same size as my son.  He then shot up and picked up a ton of velocity and became a 6'5" pitcher with a 90MPH fastball that was a top HS recruit.  He ended up at a big conference school that is an annual CWS contender.  When they were both 14 there was no doubt who the better player was but by 18 it had totally flipped over. 

The only real change...size and strength - one got it and the other did not.

Speed is more important than size. There are smaller players with all the skills. I played college summer ball with a player who played in the CWS, the Cape League and Team USA. He wasn't drafted. His son was selected in the first round and just finished his third year in the majors. Both have/had picture perfect swings relative to college ball. The only difference between the two is the son has adequate foot speed and dad didn't.