Rumor has it that Cohoon and Walden will be attending world wood bat championship with the Texas Blackhawks and not Dbat. Just wanted to know if this was true and why?
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Who's Cohoon?
I think both walden and cohoons agent is Kevin Hubbard of the Blackhawks. If thats true then that might be why.
KD--Cohoon is the lefty from mansfield that is their #2. An excellent pitcher IMO.
KD--Cohoon is the lefty from mansfield that is their #2. An excellent pitcher IMO.
I knew who Cohoon is, was just trying to get a reaction. Was bored at work today.
HS players with an agent ?????
A bit irregular is it not--back this way that makes them ineligible to play both at the HS and college level--
A bit irregular is it not--back this way that makes them ineligible to play both at the HS and college level--
agent, advisor, whatever the same thing as far as I am concerned.
Not at all are they the same, sir !!!
Mark and Jordan are not going with the BlackHawks.
quote:Originally posted by TRhit:
Not at all are they the same, sir !!!
Well an advisor usually turns into the agent. If they are the same person, then they cant be that much different!!!
Welcome back touchin99!! I guess that quashes the rumor.
I can verify touchin99. I understood that they were "shut down" for fall. 
Big difference in advisors & agents! Kevin also advises my son.
I "advise" those that may not understand or see the difference to read the NCAA guidelines.
Big difference in advisors & agents! Kevin also advises my son.
I "advise" those that may not understand or see the difference to read the NCAA guidelines.
quote:Originally posted by baseballmom:
I can verify touchin99. I understood that they were "shut down" for fall.
Big difference in advisors & agents! Kevin also advises my son
BBmaw: No need to verify touchin99, you got it from the horses mouth.
And I understand completely the difference between an advisor and an agent, no need to read the guidelines. Kevin Hubbard was Paul Kelley's advisor as well. As soon as he was drafted I guess someone waved a majic wand and BOOM...turned him into an agent.
Don't sweat it, DP. Some understood your point on advisors/agents.
I'll tell you this much. If my kid gets drafted the only one that'll be advising him will be me! We played with a couple of guys this summer that have draft potential and the "advisors" were on them like leeches. This "advisor/agent" guy ya'll mention here was one of them. No thanks. I'd rather him enjoy his last year of being a high school kid than have thirty guys blowing sunshine at him every day just so they can get a piece of the pie. It's disgusting.
Wonder if the Rowlett kid had an "advisor"? I guess I see both sides -- the minor league system is complicated. I know a few scouts, at varying levels, and those guys focus on finding & evaluating talent -- not on giving advice.
To DP and Texan:
Talking about advisors and agents as you both do only raises RED FLAGS for the NCAA and trust me they read this site as do a load of college coaches and scouts.
I realize you are in Texas where everything is big but you don't need to have big mouths and put kids in a precarious position with your statements
Talking about advisors and agents as you both do only raises RED FLAGS for the NCAA and trust me they read this site as do a load of college coaches and scouts.
I realize you are in Texas where everything is big but you don't need to have big mouths and put kids in a precarious position with your statements
TRhit;
If you think my post is blowing the lid off the the whole advisor/agent thing down here in Texas then you are naive at best. The NCAA is well aware of the process and as far as I can tell, doesnt dispute the way it works. As long as the (agent) has an advisor role and is not getting paid it is perfectly legal as far as the NCAA is concerned. Some (agents) even advise their clients to goto college instead of signing with a pro team.
If you think my post is blowing the lid off the the whole advisor/agent thing down here in Texas then you are naive at best. The NCAA is well aware of the process and as far as I can tell, doesnt dispute the way it works. As long as the (agent) has an advisor role and is not getting paid it is perfectly legal as far as the NCAA is concerned. Some (agents) even advise their clients to goto college instead of signing with a pro team.
I agree with TRhit. This is not a gossip and rumor mill. You did mention agent in your posting and those who don't know better may attempt to expose that.
These two will may be the best 1-2 combo in the state. They will be fun to watch this Spring.
Move on.
These two will may be the best 1-2 combo in the state. They will be fun to watch this Spring.
Move on.
quote:Originally posted by TRhit:
To DP and Texan:
Talking about advisors and agents as you both do only raises RED FLAGS for the NCAA and trust me they read this site as do a load of college coaches and scouts.
I realize you are in Texas where everything is big but you don't need to have big mouths and put kids in a precarious position with your statements
TRHit, your post is out of line and uncalled for. The childish name calling and regional bigotry is also unbecoming of an adult. If you do not care for Texans, then perhaps you should avoid participating in the Texas board.
I am well aware of the legalities regarding the technical definitions of adviser and agent. So don't try to talk down to me.
And the NCAA (along with coaches and scouts) is well aware of the technicalities as well. No young ballplayer has been put in a precarious position by anything stated on this thread. Period. To state otherwise is simply false.
All the lawyers in the world can spin all the technicalities they wish. And the NCAA can issue the rules. But in reality - PLEASE READ THE FOLLOWING PHRASE CAREFULLY NCAA technicalities aside - there is little practical difference in the advisor and agent as DP has pointed out.
You can continue the personal attacks as you wish. I will not respond to you again in this thread.
Well stated, Texan.
Is CT really a state anyhow?quote:I realize you are in Texas where everything is big but you don't need to have big mouths and put kids in a precarious position with your statements
TRhit
We have suburbs here bigger than that patch of cold grass.
Oh but dalbb -- it is indeed a gossip and rumor mill -- hence the origin of this thread. Rather than berate the regular posters for something innocent, why not spend a few more minutes clarifying the differences between the two (advisors and agents)? After all, everyone is just trying to be helpful, right?
touchin99 -- are the two Mansfield kids going to Jupiter at all? If so, with which team?
touchin99 -- are the two Mansfield kids going to Jupiter at all? If so, with which team?
PD -- touchin99 IS one of the two Mansfield kids!!
Its not hard to guess which one.
Its not hard to guess which one.
quote:Originally posted by dallbb:
I agree with TRhit. This is not a gossip and rumor mill. You did mention agent in your posting and those who don't know better may attempt to expose that.
These two will may be the best 1-2 combo in the state. They will be fun to watch this Spring.
Move on.
Dalbb -- This will may be your 2nd post, so your new, but anyone who would want to expose my saying agent where I should have said advisor is looking a little too hard.
DP2005 -- I knew that -- but I wanted to give him the choice of remaining anonymous, if that's possible here.
I know people that have back yards bigger than CT.
quote:Originally posted by Panther Dad:
DP2005 -- I knew that -- but I wanted to give him the choice of remaining anonymous, if that's possible here.
PD -- I did leave the door open a little I didnt say which of the two he was
But his screen name gave it away. Sorry, Mansfield kid if I blew your cover it was not on purpose
...anybody like a piece of smoked Connecticut Yankee.................
Ah, FO...
ROTFL!
ROTFL!
nope we are not going at all.
Been gone for a while. See that the same fun and games are still going on here.
First of all, the intent of an "advisor" is the same as an "agent". Basically like a real estate agent. No one makes any money until something is sold or bought.
Here is what I would recommend for future draft prospects. Advise your "advisor" that he/she will only be getting the piece of the pie that is above the original offer.
Simply stating, if Billy Bob is offered $1,000,000 by the Toronto Blue Jays and negotiations continue which allow for a larger offer at $1,200,000, then your "advisor" should only get a percentage of the 200,000 over the original offer. Billy Bob was gonna get the $1,000,000 with or without an "advisor". Why should some get a piece of what would have already been offered.
In my humble opinion, this "advisor" issue, is another sad situation in amatuer baseball today. A players purpose in this game becomes very distorted quickly by such. It's ashame that the "team" concept in soon to be gone by the time a kid reaches high school.
Do you think that some of the problems today, in the world in general, are due to the circumstances that we put our youth into?
Where are the "advisors" for that?
First of all, the intent of an "advisor" is the same as an "agent". Basically like a real estate agent. No one makes any money until something is sold or bought.
Here is what I would recommend for future draft prospects. Advise your "advisor" that he/she will only be getting the piece of the pie that is above the original offer.
Simply stating, if Billy Bob is offered $1,000,000 by the Toronto Blue Jays and negotiations continue which allow for a larger offer at $1,200,000, then your "advisor" should only get a percentage of the 200,000 over the original offer. Billy Bob was gonna get the $1,000,000 with or without an "advisor". Why should some get a piece of what would have already been offered.
In my humble opinion,
this "advisor" issue, is another sad situation in amatuer baseball today. A players purpose in this game becomes very distorted quickly by such. It's ashame that the "team" concept in soon to be gone by the time a kid reaches high school. Do you think that some of the problems today, in the world in general, are due to the circumstances that we put our youth into?
Where are the "advisors" for that?
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