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PERFECT GAME TO LAUNCH YOUTH DIVISION

Perfect Game USA is recognized as the industry leader in the showcasing and scouting of the nation’s top high school-age baseball talent. With the establishment of Perfect Game Youth, a new organization for top players aged 11-14, Perfect Game plans to establish a foothold in the youth baseball arena.

Perfect Game Youth (PGY) will launch immediately, with two National Invitation Showcase events scheduled for the Christmas holidays in Orlando, Fla., and Riverside, Calif. The events will be by invitation-only and extended to the top 200 prospects in each of the 11-, 12-, 13- and 14-year-old age groups. The 14-year group is limited to players of that age who not currently enrolled in high school.

From those introductory showcases, PG Youth will host events throughout the country on a year-round basis as it becomes actively involved in the development and promotion of the top prospects in each age group. It will focus on programs and events that emphasize instruction, skills testing, education (for both players and parents) and game competition at a national-caliber level.

PG Youth, however, won’t be limited to just the elite young players in the country. There will also be opportunities available for players of all skill levels, both at the recreation level and travel-ball level of competition, to participate in PG Youth Challenger events throughout the country. Through skills testing and related activities, players will be able to measure their ability against their own standards over the course of time, and also relative to other players of differing skills sets.

“Our primary mission is to identify and develop the top youth players in the country, to better prepare them for and expose them to the various levels of participation that lie ahead,” said PG Youth president Tim Dulin, who has been actively involved in the development and instruction of youth players since 1991. “We’ll provide them with the skills they’ll need to eventually participate in Perfect Game’s showcase events and tournaments, and also at the collegiate level and beyond. But we’ll also provide something of substance for young players of all abilities.”

Dulin is a former University of Memphis All-American and played seven years of professional baseball. Over the last 10 years, Dulin has built a reputation throughout the country as one of the leading developers of youth baseball complexes while being instrumental in the growth of travel baseball competition in all youth age groups. His elite Dulin’s Dodgers youth teams have won six national championships with 288 of his former players receiving college scholarships.

Joining Dulin in playing a major role in the development of Perfect Game Youth are Garth Iorg, a nine-year major league veteran with a lengthy coaching resume that includes being the third-base coach of the Milwaukee Brewers in the 2008 National League playoffs, and David West, a 10-year major league veteran.

Much of the PG Youth’s agenda will involve the interaction of youth players with current and former major league players. Most of the activities and events will take place on location at various baseball training sites and competition centers around the country, but players and parents will also be able to access pertinent information on a new website (www.perfectgameyouth.com) dedicated to PG Youth.

They will also have full access to a parallel site operated by Alabama-based Travel Ball Select, an online newsletter and website (www.travelballselect.com) that is geared towards players aged 9-14. Travel Ball Select has been providing national team rankings and identifying All-America players in the 9-14 age groups since 2002. PG Youth will work closely with Travel Ball Select in identifying the nation’s top youth-level prospects.

Perfect Game’s primary mission for almost two decades has been to scout and identify the top prospects of high school age, and to provide a forum—through both regional and national showcases, and national tournaments—for players to be exposed to scouts and college recruiters, while playing against the best competition possible.

“Perfect Game Youth will give youth players a better foundation as they move on to high school baseball and beyond, and it will give us a head start in identifying the top young players in the country that will participate in traditional PG events one day,” said Perfect Game USA president Jerry Ford. “Young players will be given an excellent opportunity to get top-notch instruction from some of the best teachers of young players in the game and a forum to measure their skills, while also getting a greater opportunity to play with and against the top players in the country in their age group.”

The PG Youth’s own independent website is active, and has also been launched as a sub-site on the Perfect Game, PG Crosschecker and Travel Ball Select websites.


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BIOGRAPHICAL SKETCHES
Key Personnel, Perfect Game Youth

Tim Dulin was a two-time All American at the University of Memphis and member of the 1984 U.S. national team. He was the second pick of the Baltimore Orioles in the 1985 baseball draft and played professionally for seven years as a middle infielder. Over the last 10 years, Dulin has built a reputation nationally as one of the top developers of youth baseball complexes while also being instrumental in the growth of travel baseball competition in youth age groups. He has also coached and trained 20 All-Americans and 46 players who have gone on to professional careers. His elite Dulin’s Dodgers travel teams have won six national championships with 288 of his players receiving college scholarships.

Garth Iorg was drafted in the eighth round in 1973 by the New York Yankees out of a California high school. He was taken in the American League expansion draft by the Toronto Blue Jays in 1977 and began a nine-year career in the major leagues a year later, all with the Toronto Blue Jays. Iorg also managed at every level of the minor leagues for the Blue Jays and served as a major league coach for three years in Toronto. He currently serves as the third-base coach and infield coordinator for the Milwaukee Brewers. Iorg has three sons who have all played Division I baseball and been drafted.

David West was selected in the fourth round of the 1983 draft after graduating from Craigmont High School in Memphis. He made his major league pitching debut in 1998 and went on to spend 10 years in the majors, with stints with the Twins, Phillies and Red Sox. He won a World Series ring with the Twins in 1991 and also pitched for the Phillies in the 1993 World Series.
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They will also have full access to a parallel site operated by Alabama-based Travel Ball Select, an online newsletter and website (www.travelballselect.com) that is geared towards players aged 9-14. Travel Ball Select has been providing national team rankings and identifying All-America players in the 9-14 age groups since 2002. PG Youth will work closely with Travel Ball Select in identifying the nation’s top youth-level prospects.


DANGER WILL ROBINSON, DANGER!!! Eek
Since nobody else is willing to say it, I will.

I think it is quite ridiculous to rate players at these age levels. The early growers will rate off the charts and the young pitchers will be trying to light up the radar guns before there arms are even developed.

Let the kids play the game for fun and on a local level. Lets rate them if they are good enough when they have developed adult bodies, that is if they aren't completely burnt out on baseball.
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Let the kids play the game for fun and on a local level. Lets rate them if they are good enough when they have developed adult bodies, that is if they aren't completely burnt out on baseball.



I must agree with you Blprkfrnks. But baseball is no longer a game; it's a business and everybody thinks they need to make money off it somehow. Sad thing is parents will pay it..
Not for nothing when I was running our town LL back in the early 90's we had a League ALL Star team that played another 30 or so games in the summer all around the our area in tournaments (30 minute drive at the most)---15 best kids not on vacation--not too much different from this new "item" we are talking about
quote: "PG Youth, however, won’t be limited to just the elite young players in the country. There will also be opportunities available for players of all skill levels, both at the recreation level and travel-ball level of competition, to participate in PG Youth Challenger events throughout the country."

Kinda sounds like any other organization hosting tournaments like USSSA, AAU, Ripken, ECTB.....

quote: "“We’ll provide them with the skills they’ll need to eventually participate in Perfect Game’s showcase events and tournaments, and also at the collegiate level and beyond. But we’ll also provide something of substance for young players of all abilities.”

Where are these skills instrucion going to be provided? Are you going to have people around the country offering instruction? Or are you offering these camps at distant locations like FLA and CA where not only do we have to pay for the camp but for travel also.

To me the fact that this organization is using the PG name does not make it much different that any other venue already out there. The fact that 11 -14 yos. will be rated seems to be the marketing angle to appeal to egos.
I followed all 7 pages of this debate in the Pre-HS forum and I guess I just don't see how this is so damaging. I know there will be numerous young players that will rank high at 11 yrs and wash out at older ages, but I think those that don't wash out will benefit the sport as a whole. The rankings and programs might actually keep some elite youths in the sport of baseball.

One consistency I've observed in many great professional athletes is that their performance was tracked at an early age:

Lance Armstrong - USA Triathlon Youth National Champion. Ranking begins at 7 years old in this sport.
Maria Sharipova - Ranked at 6 years old and moved to Bolliterri's Tennis academy to be developed.
Andrea Agassi - Ranked at young age and developed.
Alan Webb - Hold's US mile record at 3:46. He was first ranked in the 4th grade as a mile runner and tracked throughout his youth.

So, yes, many might be ranked at a young age and end up quiting or dropping out, but I think there may be those motivated by the ranking and the ranking might even keep them in baseball, instead of going to the dark side. Maybe Jim Courier, 1992 Tennis French Open winner, would of stayed in baseball. To this day, he still says he wanted to be a baseball pitcher, but took the tennis route instead.
I agree that some kids will benefit from this program. It is not all bad.

If a thousand kids are trying to get into the top 200, that means 800 failed. Those 800 may quit baseball as a way of dealing with failure or overzealous parents will overtrain them (quit playing multiple sports and just being a kid) and risk injuries or burnout. This kind of program puts added pressure on kids and parents to reach the ranked level when it is really meaningless.

I think with this being a HS baseball forum, most parents have watched and learned as their kids went through the process. I think most will agree that the ages below puberty mean next to nothing. It is hard to realize how little it means when your kid is good at the age of 10. But many kids quit baseball during these years because it becomes stressful instead of fun and parents do outrageous things to keep up with the others.

Most major leaguers or ex-major leaguers will give this advice to young kids when asked: "Just enjoy the game while you can because it becomes a business after HS". Now we have kids skipping their senior year in HS to get a headstart in college and we have travel coaches lecturing their 12-year-old players about the drive for scholarships and the kids are missing the fun of baseball. They think too much about who is watching, instead of enjoying the game.

This problem is not about the people offering this Perfect Game Youth program. This problem is about parents getting excited too early about the future when they should be enjoying the moments that are happening right now.
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Most major leaguers or ex-major leaguers will give this advice to young kids when asked: "Just enjoy the game while you can because it becomes a business after HS". Now we have kids skipping their senior year in HS to get a headstart in college and we have travel coaches lecturing their 12-year-old players about the drive for scholarships and the kids are missing the fun of baseball. They think too much about who is watching, instead of enjoying the game.


I don't remember who said it, but I know it's been posted here before and it very much rings true...

"Baseball is a kid's game. Adults just screw it up"
Blprkfrnks,

It is my understanding that one of the primary goals will be to educate young players and parents.

I agree with most everything you have mentioned above. Other than the 800 players who might quit!

I believe overzealous parents will be overzealous parents without any youth program like this. However, if people with tons of experience and credentials were to educate these parents and young players, some might listen and change. In some cases they will hopefully change before it is too late.

I just don't see these guys making a bunch of young kids give up the game. In fact I see the exact opposite happening. For sure no one will be "cut" which is happening all over the country at these age levels.

I actually see some problems with the present situation and PGY can help in a small way to encourage young players. I think everyone is putting too much emphasis on the word "ranking". Personally I have no interest in ranking players publicly. I do have an interest in "identifying" talented kids and stearing them in the right direction. The same holds true for the young kids who are not among the most talented at a young age. We all know that some of the lesser talented 12 year olds will become extremely talented 18 year olds. We all know that some of the most talented 12 year olds will not be among the top 18 year olds. Parents need to hear that and I'm hoping they will.

Also, everyone involved understands how important enjoying the game and having fun with the game. Why would this have to take away the fun aspect? I have every reason to believe those involved will do everything possible to make this an enjoyable and fun experience. The guys involved not only have lots of experience, they have all been fathers of young kids who have played baseball. We (PG) have watched these guys in action. They have a lot they can teach others.

I'm eager to see how this goes. I hope I'm right about it. One thing for sure is that we are going to find out. My hope is that each and every young kid who participates, leaves with just as much, and hopefully even more, love for the game than he had when he showed up.
On a "down" economy this could falter or fly ----- we'll have to wait and see. Personally I think it will catch on and fly. I think all parties involved in this, the promoters, the coaches, the parents and the kids can see the pros and cons of a venture of this nature. It's not for everyone and isn't necessary for anyone. No doubt it will help some kids, help some families, not help some kids and not help some families. It takes baseball to a higher level for younger players which in itself can hurt a particular young player --- or it could in turn help another young player. The cost will add up which could be a negative for some families. From just thinking about the concept, the biggest impact I visualize it making is establishing a precedence at a younger age the impending necessity of showcasing primarily with Perfect Game. That alone will influence many people to continue on the showcasing circuit with Perfect Game. A real boon for their numbers. Identifying a customer base is one of the greatest assets a company can have and PGY will definitely identify a customer base for Perfect Game. I know some of the people involved in the PGY and have the greatest respect for them as individuals and as baseball people. Tim Dulin especially. Tim knows me well enough that I would approach this as I did most "events" my son was involved in during his "developmental" years ---- I would evaluate the product, estimate the cost vs. benefits HE would get (or not get) from this --- and then make an decesion based on that information. (no emotion!)
Fungo
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I read the long thread last night and I feel that a great benefit of this program is the educational part. Those that are "selected" will get that benefit and it could lead to less overuse injuries among the best USA players and that is a great thing. I have no problem with Perfect Game and my son may seek out a PG or Headfirst showcase this summer (as a HS junior/senior).

The 800 number was meant to be the number of player/parents that would either quit or become overzealous. I worded that poorly. And that number could be any number of players/parents that are left behind this program, but that really wanted to be in it.

I do think that I am a little extreme in my views on the handling of youths in sports. I would not have let my son partake in this new program.
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I do think that I am a little extreme in my views on the handling of youths in sports. I would not have let my son partake in this new program.

I don't think your extreme at all. You might even be in the majority.

Just curious... Has your son ever had to try out for a team? Ever wonder what happens to all those kids who don't make the cut? Do they just try out for another team and then another until they give it up?

I know that might not have a lot in common with what this topic is about, but that has always bothered me when dealing with very young kids. And yes, the fact that kids have to pay to attend much of the stuff we do, bothers me too! We are actually trying to do something about that, but it isn't easy.
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Just curious... Has your son ever had to try out for a team? Ever wonder what happens to all those kids who don't make the cut? Do they just try out for another team and then another until they give it up?


I had to really think about that. I suppose his first true tryout, where he risked getting cut, was high school s****r as a freshman (we only have a JV and a Varsity team) at the age of 14. He was on the bubble, and the day before the cuts I asked him if he is prepared for either making the team or being cut. His answer was that if he didn't make it this year he would surely make it next year. So he would not have quit and it told me that he was playing the game for HIS pleasure.

The summer between his junior and senior year, he tried out for a couple of scout baseball teams. He did not make the summer team comprised of many kids that were heading to college, but he was given a second tryout with the same team for the fall league and he made it. A good freind of his did not make the team and I am curious if he will try again.

At this age, my son is old enough to intelligently express his feelings and desires about what he really wants to do. I'm not sure he would have been able to do that at a younger age.

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