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We attended the SE showcase this weekend and had a great time, except for getting lost trying to find Terry Park (maps of the area would be nice).

As we wait for the results of my sons performance. I am wondering; is there a rule of thumb or formula that is used to rate the kids? I’m sure it’s never clean cut for most guys. But there has to be some basic "stuff" they are looking for.

I saw kids, while most were very good; there is a definite skill difference in the guys. Take the pitchers for example; I saw several 6’4”+ guys who threw very hard but gave up many hits and walks, while I saw others, throwing in the mid 70s with good control on all of their pitches. Initial perception is that the mid 70s guy is a better pitcher by being more effective and by getting outs (of course the majority of kids, mine included, were in the middle of these examples).

I saw fielders who had great gloves but mediocre arms and I saw one who got to every ball and had a strong throw arm but couldn’t make a clean throw to first (3 over-throw errors in one game and the first baseman scooped several to save him a couple more).

I guess I’m more nervous about the rating than my son is but as with most of you, I want the best for him, AND AFTER ALL, HE “WAS” THE BEST ONE THERE!?
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My son attended four PG showcases. We're obviously PG supporters, or we wouldn't have kept going back.

His ratings bounced all over the place, but there was probably some justification for that.

At his first showcase (the National Underclass), he was an 8. I was pleasantly surprised. Going in, I had expected an 8 or higher, but he didn't perform all that well. He struck out several guys, but also walked several. On the way home, I was speculating to myself that he'd get a 7 or 7.5.

At his second showcase (Sunshine East), he got an 8.5. This was in June, he was in peak shape, and he did great. Unlike the prior showcase, I was a little disappointed. I was hoping for a 9, but that was based partly on the fact that he received an 8 when he didn't perform all that well. But relative to the ratings of other players who attended that showcase, the 8.5 was probably about right.

At his third showcase (SE Top Prospects), his velocity was way off. It was in September and he hadn't been throwing much. His peak velocity was down 4 mph from the prior showcase. Even so, he pitched well -- 3 innings on the mound, great control, and, as I recall, no hits. He got a 7. I had expected a drop to maybe a 7.5 or an 8, but not a 7. But then again, he didn't look all that special tools-wise. I remember watching a Diamond Backs' scout at that event notice my son warming up from a distance. He must have liked what he saw, because he walked over from the field where he had been watching a game just to see my son pitch. He put the gun on him for about 5 pitches. The velocity was nothing special, and so he walked off. (I was crushed). The point is that the DBacks' scout would have probably given my son a "7" that day as well.

My son's final PG event was the World Showcase in early January. He had taken a Christmas trip out of the country and only had one week to get ready (terrible planning on our part). His velocity was only about the same as it had been at the Sunshine East six months earlier (but then again, better than it had been at the SE Top Prospects showcase in September). He performed pretty well against some very high level competition, but given that his velocity hadn't jumped, I was expecting an 8 or 8.5. He got a 9. I guess the reviewer was taking into account the calibre of the batters he faced, as well as the fact that it was the middle of winter. In fact, within a few weeks after that showcase, following his high school baseball conditioning, my son's peak velocity picked up 3 mph from his previous high.

Thus, my guy went from a "7" to a "9" in less than four months. There's some subjectivity involved, as reflected in the different ratings, but the differences also reflect variations in performance. There were times my son came in better condition to play. Looking back, I wish we had skipped the SE Top Prospects showcase. He was not at his best, and the scouts, etc. who come to these events have every right to assume they're seeing a player who has come prepared to display his best.

As for rules of thumb, they're looking to project how players will perform down the road. That involves more than how they play on the particular day of the showcase. Thus, although my guy didn't perform all that well in his first showcase, the PG reviewer obviously saw something in him and liked his basic tools. (As it turns out, he was right -- my son was drafted last week in one of the lower rounds). Likewise, although my son got guys out in his third showcase, his tools (in particular, his velocity) were nothing special. The PG reviewer probably saw a guy who was getting batters out on that particular day, but who could just as easily get knocked around in his next outing.

The bottom line to this long story is this -- whatever rating your son receives, I wouldn't read too much into it. We attended showcases to be seen by the right people and to play against top competition, not to get a rating. The coaches and scouts who are watching your son will give him their own "rating". That's ultimately the only rating that matters.
I think the PG rating system gives you the answer. PG is not evaluating players on their individual showcase performance or stats. The ratings are based on PG projections on what they see as player potential at the next level of baseball.
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Perfect Game USA's Player Ranking System

10 -- Potential very high draft pick, Top DI in the nation prospect
9 -- Potential top 10 round pick, Top DI prospect
8 -- Potential mid round pick, definite DI prospect
7 -- Potential low round pick, DI prospect or top level Juco, DII
6 -- Possible DI prospect, definite DII or Juco prospect
5 -- Possible DII prospect or mid range Juco prospect
4 -- Possible low level DII or high level DIII prospect
3 -- Possible DIII or low level Juco prospect
2 -- Possible low level DIII prospect
1 -- No prospect at this time
I you really, really, really want to know exactly what goes on in the minds of people who attend, and evaluate players at, showcases, you need to pick up a copy of SHOWCASE

http://showcasethemovie.com/

You couldn't spend better money if you've got one or more showcases coming up in your future. My son has a couple of evaluation events this summer, and we just watched this again....and will watch it on the plane probably, too.....
I think everyone's experience is different.

PG does a great job at evaluating talent. They are not always right - but they are definitely right more than they are wrong. And they see more kids than anyone - by far.

My eldest son went to the Underclass showcase in 2002 - in Fla. He was rated a 6 - and was disappointed. At the same time - he was doubly motivated to make sure that 6 got buried.

Fast forward to 2006 - about 3 weeks ago - he got 2 offers to be drafted - in the teens. He decided to wait until next year's draft for many reasons - but that buried the 6. Gone.

Bottom line - if you dont get rated well it is not the end of the world. Just keep working hard and kick *** on the field - and it will take care of itself.
RadioBall, thanks for sharing your experience. My son will be participating in his first PG showcase next month and it helps to know what others have gone through. I'm curious about where your son will be playing next year. You said he was drafted in one of the lower rounds. Am I correct in assuming that he did not sign? Did he just graduate from high school or has he been playing college ball somewhere? Just curious where he has ended up, given the rating he received.
Given the large number of evals written, there are bound to be was some that miss a bit, either high or low. One I tracked down recently was for a HS junior 5-11 catcher out of South Florida that was less than flowing in its praise with a 6 rating. Fast forward 4 years after he established himself as a top defensive catcher in the country getting drafted last week 6th round by the Toronto Blue Jays out of the University of Florida. Congrats Brian Jeroloman. I guess your 6 is buried too.

I'm guessing the discrepency is less about the inaccuracy of the evaluation and more about Brian's refusal to lose, and will to overcome.

Brians PG Profile
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I agree that the ranking does help push a player. My sons first experience with PG was the underclassman showcase in Waco. My son received a 7.5 but more imortantly he got the opportunity to see some of the top catchers in his class. Came back after the first night to the hotel and he was talking about how much work he needed and it was time to focus. First day was drills...definately not my sons strong suit..He felt that most of the catchers left him in the dust. We expected a really low eval. number. Day 2 was games and my son rocked on that day. He has always been better in the game situation than the skills. Anyhow after getting the ranking and going to the PG showcase he knew where he needed to wrk. I highly recommned players going to PG showcase early. I am sending my youngest son after his sophomore year to get him started.

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