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I am looking for the pitch count recommendations for my 10 year old son. On ASMI's website, all I can find is Little League Pitch count rules (75/day) and USA Baseball (50/day). I can't find something that gives their stance. I thought I remember reading that it was 50.

I've heard numerous times that 75 pitches is too many for kids that age. He pitched to the limit almost every time last season, and felt fine at the time. His shoulder only started to hurt after the season was over.
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Danocaster,

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“I am looking for the pitch count recommendations for my 10 year old son”

Then you want the very best legitimate scientific information concerning youth growth patterns and development that can be attained concerning Ballistic athletic activity.
You will want to know how each injury is caused by its particular mechanic so you can then determine this yourself for your child. Drmikemarshall.con

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“On ASMI's website”

On ASMI’s website you will find recommendations that have already failed miserably and their newest ones will also, because they believe that pitch counts produce injuries not mechanics. They are teaching a nominal form of the injurious traditional pitching motion (meaning-Noley did it this long and Sandy did it this long so it must be between) that they believe is not injurious in its nominal form making the reason for any injuries to them then being pitch counts, this keeps them from discovering valuable kinesiological information concerning the injuriousness of their nominal mechanics they promote.

Their pitch count studies are produced from questioners garnered from established baseball coaches, X players and Dr’s whom know little about how force application injuries are produced or how human growth (exclude the Dr’s here) physiology works making their recommendations anecdotal at best and hardy scientific and will ensure that the information will have no merit and the problem persisting.

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“I've heard numerous times that 75 pitches is too many for kids that age”

Males at biological age 10 (not chronological) should not be pitching in competition at all but since you would not then have a game and are going to pitch him anyways the load should be spread out among all players, you should not allow him to pitch competitively more than 40 pitches once a week for no more than 2 innings, if his 1 st inning was more than 25 pitches he does not get the second inning for no more than 3 months of the spring season.

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“He pitched to the limit almost every time last season”

This accomplishes nothing in the long run and is way too much competitive pitching for an elbow that does not even show up on an X-ray.

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“felt fine at the time”

Non-debilitating Bone deformation is painless until it completely fails.
Improper force application injures him with every pitch! I suspect your son has some form of the injurious traditional mechanics?
Proper non-injurious (other than bone injuries) force application will still deform bone by over stressing growth ossification (growth plates) centers.
So, spread the load!

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“His shoulder only started to hurt after the season was over”

There are over 10 main shoulder injuries; the most prevalent is “Little league shoulder”
In this biological age group caused when the growth plate at the top of the Humerus (proximal) splits a little or a lot, this could very well have happened at the end of season? This is a deceleration injury caused when the arm slings across the front of his ball arm peck and levers the end of the bone away from the scapula with the traditional pitching motion. The pain is at the top end out side deep in the delt and most times miss-diagnosed by Dr’s as a Delt tear, always get an X-ray! Where is his pain?
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Originally posted by Yardbird:
Males at biological age 10 (not chronological) should not be pitching in competition at all but since you would not then have a game and are going to pitch him anyways the load should be spread out among all players, you should not allow him to pitch competitively more than 40 pitches once a week for no more than 2 innings, if his 1 st inning was more than 25 pitches he does not get the second inning for no more than 3 months of the spring season.


I don't agree with Yardbird much, but in this case I think there is some validity in this statement.

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