Now that the tournaments are underway, how many pitches are your kids throwing per outing and are they pitching more than once during the tournament?
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quote:Originally posted by Ken Guthrie:
Ask Nolan Ryan what he thinks about pitch counts.
quote:Originally posted by PAW-FECT:quote:Originally posted by Ken Guthrie:
Ask Nolan Ryan what he thinks about pitch counts.
Enlighten us wise one!
This is a weak response. Most of us are familiar with your baseball employment history. You have insights most of us will never have. Make a case (without insulting any of us) why pitch counts are unnecessary, or used incorrectly. Explain what pitch count philosophies were during your time of employment with MLB. Explain in your view how pitch counts have changed the game. That would be interesting reading.quote:Originally posted by Ken Guthrie:
Why? You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink it.
quote:Originally posted by dbg_fan:This is a weak response. Most of us are familiar with your baseball employment history. You have insights most of us will never have. Make a case (without insulting any of us) why pitch counts are unnecessary, or used incorrectly. Explain what pitch count philosophies were during your time of employment with MLB. Explain in your view how pitch counts have changed the game. That would be interesting reading.quote:Originally posted by Ken Guthrie:
Why? You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink it.
quote:Originally posted by robsdad:
none of you make any sense of this issue what about a cow bunch of hill billys
quote:Originally posted by Crash_Davis:
I have heard Dr. Conway speak before about this (I was also a patient of his). He said that the thing he sees more than anything are kids that pitch and also play SS and 3B. He sees more injuries from those types of kids than any other.
His advice was for your pitcher's, if they play another position, to play 1B or OF. Obviously, don't let them play the other position the next day or two after they pitch.
Oh, I know, your SS is also your best pitcher. You may want to think twice about that.
quote:Originally posted by Panther Dad:
Regarding a reaction during the game, there is nothing (or little) that parents can do. Speaking to the coach after the game, with calmer minds, is the way to go.
quote:Originally posted by Panther Dad:
Well -- I have never claimed to be an expert on anything, let alone pitching or pitch counts (although I stayed in a Holiday Inn Express last night). My conversation with the coach would be to understand his thinking -- not to throw data in his face. Obviously, there are several factors to consider in a case like this one -- for instance, does the coach have a history of high pitch counts early in the season (like this time)? -- or does the kid have a history of arm problems (even extended soreness) that occur in instances when he throws 95+ -- something the coach may actually be interested in knowing. If a coach knows a kid is effective to 80-85 pitches.....and becomes inconsistent thereafter....his hook may be ready sooner. As Ken reiterates, everyone's goals should be the same (HAHA!) -- protect arms, develop strength, win games, establish TEAM, etc.
quote:Originally posted by Three Bagger:
What bothered me is that the coach had no one warming up